middle east

  1. How reliable are the MENA maps of Mehrdad Izady?

    Here is his blog: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml . They seem pretty detailed and accurate but there some odd choices in terms of classification of some groups. For example, in here he separates the the alawites from the nusayris, dispate the later only being a slur for the formers...
  2. PC: British intervention in the Ottoman Empire whilst neutral in WWI?

    So, in an ATL where Britain stays out of WWI (German respect of Belgium, better pre-war relations with Germany, an earlier Irish imbroglio, etc), what chance is there that London would still try something in the Ottoman Empire? I would assume a July Crisis that sees Britain “Happily...”...
  3. AHC: Two (Or More) Israels/Jewish States?

    While researching something on the Six Day wars, I stumbled upon an illustration of several proposed Jewish states/possible alternate history Israels, and that led to a rabbit hole of proposed Jewish states throughout history. There were so many variations of the idea of giving the Jews their...
  4. lerk

    1979: A year in which nothing happened

    1979 was a pivotal year, especially for the Middle East region. It had: - Egypt-Israel peace treaty - Iranian Islamic revolution - Soviet invasion of Afghanistan - Siege of Mecca - Saddam becoming Iraqi President Let us assume none of these things happened. Peace negotiations between Egypt and...
  5. Whiteshore

    AHC: Have Pan-Arabism succeed

    Your challenge, with a POD after 1945, is for Pan-Arabism to become a successful political movement with a single united Arab nation controlling at least a majority of the Arab World by 2019.
  6. lerk

    DBWI: No (or less successful) Arab Spring

    OOC: =dbwi']This is what a DBWI is, we won't discuss it in the thread. IC: IOTL, in the early 2010s, a series of protest movements across the Arab world led to various dictatorships, once saw as stable and secure in their power, fall. Bahrain, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Yemen, and...
  7. AHC: The Black Death killed 90% of people in Eurasia

    Another challenge of mine (muahahaha), so what if a particularly virulent and fatal strain of the Black Death evolved in the grasslands of Central Asia prior to its spread across Eurasia, maybe the genome of the bacteria was changed by a few base sequences or so. By the mid 13th century, the...
  8. Duke Andrew of Dank

    WI: The Sykes-Picot Agreement is not done

    Simply put, it was the Anglo-French plan to split the Middle East. Something done behind the backs of the Arab peoples. Who had been promised independence from the Ottoman Empire. drawing on what was going then IOTL, what would have happened had this agreement never happened?
  9. Iacobus

    How would a surviving ERE affect the Middle East up to modern day?

    This could go in either pre-1900 or post-1900 but since the POD would be before I placed it here. So, I've had a scenario the Roman Empire turns itself around after Manuel Komnenos in the 1170's, manages to reconquer Anatolia, ally with Hungary and establish suzerainty over the Levant. Due to...
  10. lerk

    Balance Of Power

    A balance of power is defined as a situation in which the nations of the world have roughly equal power. A hyperpower is defined as a country which dominates world affairs, a nation which could be described as the most powerful country in the world. In a world in which there is a hyperpower...
  11. Would the Ottoman Empire still exist today if they just stayed out of WW1?

    Would the Ottomans be able to build an "Ottoman" national identity to deter Arab nationalism? Could they use Islam as a glue to unite the nation? If they stayed out of WW1 could they have crushed the Saudis and incorporated the rest of Arabia into the empire? Would they be a global economic...
  12. Hitler's Nazi Germany Focuses on North Africa and the Middle East Instead of Stalin's USSR

    Instead of doing Operation Barbarossa, what if Hitler instead decides to focus on invading North Africa and working with Italy. In this scenario, Hitler would try to seize Egypt and the Middle East to cut off the British in the Mediterranean and seize vital oil supplies. Without invading the...
  13. Nassirisimo

    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: The Crisis of the 1870s

    Fadıl Necmi; The Sublime Ottoman State: A History of the Ottoman Empire: Istanbul University Press The Crisis of the 1870s For all the wrong reasons it seemed, 1873 would be a turning point for the Ottoman Empire. It had been almost a half-century since the destruction of the Janissary Corps...
  14. AltoRegnant

    AHC: US Doesn't Provide Refuge To The Shah?

    Otl, after the iranian revolution, the USA, under Carter gave Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the ousted Shah, refuge. Which went over poorly with the Islamic Republic. But what if we didn't? What if we approved the revolution, at least on paper. This would keep us away from Saudi Arabia over the 20th...
  15. Spain Focuses on North Africa, the Middle East, and the Ottomans Instead of Europe

    Instead of putting so much money and resources in getting involved with European conflicts (probably means not getting into a union with the Habsburgs), what if Spain (during the 16th, 17th, ... centuries) decides to not be so involved with Europe and instead focus its energies in North Africa...
  16. Višeslav

    How does Saladin not ruling egypt affect the crusader states?

    Saladin's role in more or less removing catholic forces from the holy land is often very much hyped up. He is seen by many as the saviour of the Islamic world from Christian invaders. Now I don't believe in the idea that a great man alone is enough to shape history so drastically. What I'm...
  17. Višeslav

    No ottomans, who, if anyone replaces the Bzyantines

    The main question is just the title. The way I see it, post-manzikert, the Byzantines were more or less doomed to decline (feel free to correct this if you see it as wrong) but without the ottomans, they would not have done so as quickly and, of course, if they did decline, would be replaced by...
  18. Biden '88: Goodnight Tehran
    Threadmarks: Prologue: The Fall of Iraq (1987)

    Kiss me goodbye and write me while I'm gone, Goodbye my Sweetheart, Hello Tehran. INTRODUCTION Hello! This is my first post here - and it's also going to be my first try at an alternate history scenario. I thought this up while reading about Joe Biden himself and got curious that he ran in...
  19. Whiteshore

    Impact of no Mongol Empire

    In a scenario where Temujin Borjigin/Genghis Khan doesn't unite the Mongols into a united entity, dying before he could unite the Mongols, what is the impact of the Mongol Empire not being a thing? How does the world develop in a "sans Mongol Empire" scenario? What would be the main dynamics of...
  20. Whiteshore

    WI: Rashidi Arabia

    In a scenario where the Rashidis defeated the Saudis during the Saudi-Rashidi War, rendering the House of Saud a historical footnote and unites Arabia in a manner akin to the Saudis IOTL, how does Arabia develop? What does a Jabal Shammar which encompasses the territory of OTL Saudi Arabia look...
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