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  1. Could the Lombards have imparted their name upon the entirety of Italy, akin to how the Franks did on Gaul?

    Let's say that the Kingdom of the Lombards somehow manages to beat the Franks back, and then proceeds to gain control, direct or indirect, over Rome itself, thereby securing its existence for the foreseeable future. Better yet, perhaps they managed to survive into the modern day, much like West...
  2. Benevento isn't divided in 851

  3. Collondi

    AHC/WI: the Kingdom of the Lombards takes Rome

    Sometime between the kingdom’s founding and their OTL conquest by Charlemagne, create a scenario in which the Lombards take over the city of Rome, and the Byzantines are unable to reconquer it. How does this impact the development of the Lombards? Would they centralize more? What happens to the...
  4. Pneumic

    What if the Siege of Salerno (871/872 AD) was successful?

    The available sources at the time provide limited information about events beyond the Lombard core areas. Still, by 860, the Muslims appeared to be as strong in southern Italy as they were in Sicily, indicating their potential for complete conquest in the region. Their dominance extended the...
  5. How could the slavic invasion of Byzantine Illyria be avoided?

    After Justinian's death and the Plague, Justin II stopped to pay subsidies to the Avars ending the truce after 558. During his reign, the Avars and Lombards combined forces to destroy the Kingdom of the Gepids, centered in Transylvania. The aftermath was the absolute dominance of the Avars in...
  6. Mr_Fanboy

    How much of Europe could have been Germanized?

    ...with a point of divergence no earlier than around 300 AD. It was not long after this point that the Migration Period began in earnest, after all, and the Germanic peoples played prominently into this upheaval. But then again, they did a fairly poor job of actually expanding their language...
  7. WI: Lombards conquer ALL of Italy

    Let’s say Alboin isn’t murdered, and after taking Pavia in 572 the Lombards siege and capture the Byzantine holdout of Ravenna. Rome is next and the rest of the peninsula quickly follows. By 600, all of Italy is united under Alboin. What does this mean for Europe?
  8. Avar and Lombard fates swap

    Let's suppose that after the destruction of the Gepids, it's the Avars who leave the Pannonian basin to invade Italy. How could things play out? How different would things be if there was an Italic state with a non-Christian, at least in the beginning, ruling class? And what if the Pannonian...
  9. kasumigenx

    The new Pharoahs
    Threadmarks: A Change of Heart

    On 626, the Sassanid General Shahrbaraz would realize that fighting Khosrow II would destabilize Persia against either the Arabs or the Byzantines and decided that being loyal to Khosrow II rather than fight Khosrow and his own heir. The Strength of the Sassanids in Egypt and the Support of the...
  10. If the destruction of Gepidia in 567 by the Lombards and the Avars is avoided, what happens to the southern slavs?

    If the Gepids were able to win the Avar-Lombard coallision or if it never existed, what happens to the southern slavs? Would they still exist and raid the balkans depopulating it and settling there, or would Gepidia, as a east-germanic speaking entity, would still surviving in the east of...
  11. kasumigenx

    The Kingdom of Desires an Italian Lombard TL
    Threadmarks: 1

    On 768, the daughter of Desiderio of the Lombards[1] the King of Italy would marry the future Leo IV of the Eastern Roman Empire, creating an alliance between the Lombard Italian Kingdom and the Eastern Roman Empire, the Princess would take the name Epythimia taken from the meaning of the name...
  12. The Professor

    How long can the Ostrogothic Kingdom of Italy last?

    Or essentially, how much can be retained? Could the Lombards be coopted? Impact on Slavic migration into Illyria? Etc etc etc!
  13. Italy in the Migration Period – No Pope, No Christianity, No Islam

    I have a challenge for you that may require a somewhat liberal approach to butterflies. The main focus in this one is Italy during the Migration Period but in a world where Christianity (and consequently Islam) never took hold. Let’s imagine that Christianity rises in the first-century as yet...
  14. Destiny of Lombard Italy without Islam?

    Imagine that Muhammad never existed or at least he didn’t kick off the Islamic movement. How would things evolve on the Italian Peninsula in the 7th and 8th centuries? To what degree would a second ERE reconquista be likely, decisively ousting the Lombards from Italy? I mean, ERE would only have...
  15. AHC: Surviving Lombard Kingdom

    Your challenge is to have the Kingdom of the Lombards survive until at least 1000.
  16. Basileus_Komnenos

    AHC: Italian/Lombard Versions of Charlemagne Creating the HRE

    Assuming Karloman survives and fights with Charlemagne, could a Lombard Version of Charlemagne arise in Western Europe? Italy despite being ravaged by the Gothic Wars and Lombard Invasions was still the wealthiest region in the Mediterranean world. Assuming some military genius...
  17. ArchimedesCircle

    For Want of a Hammer
    Threadmarks: Prelude

    Prelude The transition between the late Roman and the post-Roman west was not a simple process. First came the Migration period, the Völkerwanderung, when Germanic peoples swept through the Western Roman Empire. Then the Empire ceased to exist, dissolved by Odoacer. Odoacer was in turn...
  18. Linguistic Shifte in Italy from Romance to Lombard

    Why did not Italy experience a linguistic shift from Italian Romance dialects in favor of Germanic Lombard? How could the Germanic Lombard language become the main language of Italy similar to what Turkish is for Anatolia, English for England, Slavic for the Balkan? If Italy became mostly...
  19. WI: An Ostrogothic exodus spreads non-trinitarianism in the north?

    After the defeat of the Ostrogoths at the Battle of Mons Lactarius, a number of the Ostrogoths went back north and resettled in Austria. Some of them would participate in the later Lombard invasion. Arian Christianity was allegedly introduced to the Goths in the first place by a singular priest...
  20. Mr_Fanboy

    AHC/WI: Germanic Western Mediterranean

    Here's a question I've tried to get at in some form or fashion with different threads in the past, but I figured I'd ask it more directly. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, much of its former territory was divided between kingdoms established by different Germanic tribes. Important...
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