late antiquity

  1. AHC: India as a great power in Late Antiquity

    In the third century CE, Mani, the founder of the religion of Manichaeism, described Rome, Aksum, Persia and China as the four greatest powers of his day. But there was a fifth place in late antiquity that was a once and future great power: India. While the subcontinent was hardly a backwater...
  2. SunKing105

    WI: Aetius serves under the Huns?

    An idea I had recently is that Flavius Aetius, the famous late Roman general, stays under Atilla and serves under him, rather than going back to Rome, becoming a reverse Stilcho almost. Changes early in his life, along with disgust at the intrigues and corruption of the imperial court, lead him...
  3. SunKing105

    WI; Bahram Chobin overthrows the Sassanids?

    Bahram Chobin was a general from the Mihranid clan that attempted to revolt against Hormizd IV and restore the Arsacid Empire. Around 590, after achieving a victory against the Hephthalites, he revolted and seized the throne for a year, before being deposed by Vistahm and Vinduyih, who had...
  4. GauchoBadger

    WI: Odoacer defeats Theodoric?

    Odoacer was a Germanic born warlord from the 5th century most commonly known for legally felling the Western Roman Empire in 476 by deposing the last Western Emperor, Romulus Augustulus and taking over political control of Italy. Despite the fickle legality and legacy of such deed, Odoacer was a...
  5. The Darling of the World - A Persian TL
    Threadmarks: Part 1: Known Unknown

    ---------------------- Part 1: Known Unknown One of the most frustrating but important battles to study by far is the Battle of Resaena, which took place in what was then Roman Syria in 243. Other than the fact that Roman and Persian arms clashed with great ferocity when the event took place...
  6. Cry of the Augustinians Brainstorming Thread

    So I have begun working on planning a world with a POD in 430. During the Siege of Hippo, St. Augustine recovers from his sickness and doesn't die. Thus, when the Vandals capture the city, he is still alive. Due to Vandal religious policies, Augustine is an open critic resulting in his...
  7. Is Jewish North Africa possible in a TL without Islam?

    Recently, I read about the Berber warrior queen Dihya, and it made me think about a Jewish North Africa, specifically in a timeline where a figure like her wouldn't have to fend of Muslim invaders, as those have been butterflied away earlier. Granted the historicity of her Jewishness is...
  8. WI: A Truly Perpetual Peace?

    What would be the effects of Rome and Iran actually sticking to the Treaty of Perpetual Peace between Justinian and Khusrau (signed in 532)? Perhaps not really sticking to it for Eternity as was originally intended, but at least for a longer period of time? How could this happen? Could the...
  9. AHC: Insular Celtic domination of mainland Europe

    Challenge: after the extinction of most Continental Celtic languages, have the Insular Celtic groups (such as Irish, Welsh, Scots Gaelic, Breton, Manx, extinct Cumbric and Cornish, etc.) conquer and dominate mainland Europe, to the extent that substantial parts of mainland Europe besides...
  10. The Three Explosions: A Late Antiquity/Western Roman Timeline

    Before we begin I would like to lay out a disclosure for this timeline. First and foremost I intend it to redefine typical Dark Age timelines, well perhaps not redefine but rather provide a radically new approach to cleanse your palate. That being said I do intend for this timeline to retain...
  11. Industrialised Gupta Empire?

    This is probably ASB, but let's pretend it's not ASB for a second and just highly unlikely. Is there a way to get classical-era India, preferably under the Gupta Empire at its height, to industrialise? I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of classical-era India, but seeing as most early...
  12. WI: Clovis never unites Gaul under the Franks?

    What if Clovis failed to conquer Gaul from the Gallo-Romans, preventing his conquest of the Alemanni and the Visigoths in Aquitaine? This would leave the Franks probably divided, pagan, and inhabiting the substantially "barbarized" former Roman frontier. While the Franks were Romanized...
  13. Are there any good timelines for Rome going through a "dynastic cycle?"

    Rome and China are often contrasted, the former disintegrating and remaining disunited whereas the latter inexorably reunified after periods of division. So my question is what would a Roman Mediterranean that goes through Chinese cyclical history look like, and are there any existing timelines...
  14. AvatarOfKhaine

    What would "actual" reformed pagan faiths look like?

    So CKII rightly gets a lot of slack for its portrayal of what happens to the marginalised faiths when they "reform" which inevitably leads to centralisation in that game. Just like with Vicky II we can forgive some of this due to its gamey nature, but are there any real life examples of attempts...
  15. WI Constantine loses?

    What would happen if Constantine loses the battle of the milvian bridge? Would Christianity be stopped and what religion would replace it?
  16. Underrated Late Roman Empire PODs (4th century to 6th century AD)

    What are some underrated points of divergence during the fall of the Roman Empire and early "Dark Ages", especially from 313 AD to 565 AD? Persia or China are relevant as well, though the main focus is Rome and the foederati.
  17. Alcsentre Calanice

    PC: A Roman Republic after Augustus

    Hi guys! I have a question for you: How plausible is a republican renewal after Augustus? How probable is it to have a restoration of the Roman Republic during the Principate? And how can we achieve that? Some clarifications: I know that the Romans called their state res publica even during...
  18. AHC: Worst case scenarios for the Late Roman Empire?

    With a POD between 375 and 500, what are some worst-case scenarios for the Roman Empire in the 5th and 6th centuries? That is, how could it have fallen most spectacularly and into as many pieces as possible, as early as possible? What are some best-case scenarios for the Goths, Vandals, Franks...
  19. The Scorpion's Sting (reboot of "The Scorpion Bite")

    Hi everyone, I finally managed to find enough courage to get back to work on my earlier TL. This is going to be at first a reboot of The Scorpion Bite and I will then, hopefully, manage to continue it beyond where I left it the last time. First of all the title changes slightly (It occurred to...
  20. LNSS

    A Christian Persian Empire

    What would be the most likely time for a Persian Empire (Mesopotamia + Persian plateau) with a Christian (Nestorian?) ruler class to emerge? From what I understand, in Sassanian Persia, Christianity was beginning to spread so that almost all of Mesopotamia (where Ctesiphon itself, seat of the...
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