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  1. jhuro

    WI: A socialist Republic of China in the 1920s?

    Is it possible for the left wing of the Kuomintang to become the dominant player in China during the early warlord period? Perhaps it could end up being a reversal of the OTL Chinese Civil War, with a right-KMT government waging a guerilla war in the countryside. I know Stalin initially...
  2. China WI: Xiong Xianghui gets caught?

    Xiong Xianghui was a CCP spy who worked as a secretary to Hu Zongnan, one of the Nationalists' top generals, sending all sorts of important information regarding KMT moves to the Communist leadership. His biggest contribution to the Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War happened in early...
  3. Charles became the Governor of Hong Kong in 1986, ASB or not?

    I came across a book titled "Ever the Diplomat: Confessions of a Foreign Office Mandarin" written by Sherard Cowper-Coles and printed in 2012. He had been the British ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Israel and Afghanistan in the 2000s, and most relevant to this discussion, the head of the Hong Kong...
  4. WI: Deng died in 1990/91, before the 1992 'Southern Tour'?

    Let's take a detour from European history and look at some PoDs and possibilities in Asia. Many had theorised about modern Chinese history without Deng, most notably had the Maoist Gang of Four or Hua Guofeng prevailed over the reformists. That is not our main point of discussion today, however...
  5. PC: China becoming first communist nation

    Is it plausible for China to become communist before Russia or in a timeline where the Bolshevik revolution in Russia fails or never happens, or is this ASB territory? China seems to have the ingredients to go communist post 1911 revolution, with alot of poor and oppressed peasants, political...
  6. Ana Luciana II

    AHC: Maximise Chinese Army for Second Sino-Japanese War

    A great deal of ink has been expended regarding the unpreparedness and inefficiency of the Nationalist Chinese Revolutionary Army in the years leading up to 1937. So with as late a POD as possible let’s maximise the Chinese Revolutionary Army in the run-up to WW2. Of course a lot of why the...
  7. Eucalyptus

    What total number of Han settlers could Siberia and Central Asia support?

    If China somehow managed to hold Siberia indefinitely, let's say up to the Yenisey River, and the part of Central Asia that the Qing lost in our reality in the 1870s, I think it would be possible to overwhelm these regions with Han settlers without using ASB. You could already stack up 20...
  8. THE KINGFISH

    The Pacific War if the Munich Agreement Never Happened

    How would the Pacific War change if France never fell to the Nazis and Britain didn't have their hands tied in the Battle of Britain - because both were butterflied by an alternate War in Europe caused by Germany invading Czechoslovakia without the Munich Agreement? For a POD, let's say that...
  9. Could China become a democracy in the 1910s?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Chinese_National_Assembly_election Shortly after the Xinhai Revolution, mainland China had what was probably the most democratic election in its history, with multiple parties taking part in it, even if only a very small percentage of the population was...
  10. capteuan

    Nine Heavens, Four Seas: An East Asia Timeline
    Threadmarks: Prelude: The Fated Night

    序章 Prelude: The Fated Night It was the night of December 23th, 1673 when the Forbidden City burned. During the Qing conquest of China, many Ming generals defected to Great Qing due to various reasons. These defecting generals, called Xiangjiang(降將), were treated with high respect and...
  11. Timeline for a stronger and more unified Asia

    Pan-Asianist (Minus most of the imperialism) fever dream, basically The way I see this timeline playing out: 1. More successful Freedom & People's Rights Movement ----------------------------------------------------- 2. Industrialized, independent Korea via successful Gapsin Coup...
  12. TheDoofusUser

    WI : CKS dies in 1936 Xi'an Incident, Bai Chongxi becomes head of KMT

    in 1936, Chiang Kai Shek was temporarily deposed as leader of the KMT in the Xi'an Incident before re-obtaining power and making an alliance with the CCP that would later prove fatal to him (at least, that's what I get from it from a basic once over). What if, in an alternate timeline, Shek died...
  13. Oba Cahokia

    WI: French China/Qing as the equivalent of the British Raj?

    The British took decades to conquer what would be the crown jewel of their empire in India. What if the French did the same thing with China?
  14. AHC: “One Country, Two Systems” for Taiwan

    Due to US backing, the difficulty for a PLA naval landing, and the existence of Nuclear Weapons, the “long game” has been the policy of the CPC. Can the PRC, without military conquest, achieve a political union that affirms CPC dominance and Chinese unity while preserving some local system...
  15. Ana Luciana II

    AHC: Allied Japan, Axis China

    Your mission is simple with a POD after 1918 give us an Allied Japan and an Axis China in an alt-WW2.
  16. JaguarCD

    Altering the Qing dynasty so the Chinese Civil War would be less of a bloody slog?

    What events would need to be changed during the late Qing era so the future warring factions would fight for a shorter time and without killing nearly as many civilians?
  17. GameBawesome

    WI: Wu Sangui didn't defect to the Qing?

    Wu Sangui was a general in the late Ming Dynasty, and later defected to the Qing Dynasty after Li Zicheng took Beijing, which was instrumental the Qing conquest of China, then decades later revolt against the Qing in an attempt to establish his own dynasty, but then died. It would be best to...
  18. GameBawesome

    WI/AHC: House of Koxinga takes over China? Zheng Dynasty

    The Zheng Family, also known as the House of Koxinga was founded by Zheng Chenggong, or also known as Koxinga. He was a Ming Loyalist that fought against the Manchu Qing Conquests, and nearly took Nanjing, which had he did, it would've interrupted the supply route of the Grand Canal leading to...
  19. GameBawesome

    Christianity in an ethnic Han-Chinese Dynasty?

    Christianity in China has an interesting history. Not mentioning on previous Christians in China in the medieval period, and starting off in the 16th Century, Jesuit missions from Europe came to China. Throughout the Late Ming Period, Jesuits acted as a limited middlemen for what little...
  20. AHC: Planned capital called “Zhongjing” in Nationalist China

    This is pretty specific but I had an idea in the context of a Nationalist win in China where the KMT builds a constructed capital for China and fittingly rename a centrally located city such as either Xi’an or Luoyang, which have both historically been capitals, to 中京 (Zhōngjīng - central...
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