charlemagne

  1. TheDoofusUser

    WI : Leo IV "the Khazar" lives to his late 60s

    Leo IV "the Khazar" of the Isaurian Dynasty rule from 775-780 at a crucial point in the empire following the death of his father Constantine V. He had invaded Abbasid Caliphate in Syria and winning some minor victories as well as taking some loot and Jacobites to resettle in Thrace. However, he...
  2. PolishMagnet

    Would the western Romance languages be intelligible if the Carolingian realm never split?

    Let's say Louis the Pious lives longer and the Carolingian empire stays united until at least the 1600s, with territory including modern France, Lombardy, and Catalonia at the very least. Would this prevent French, Italian, Occitan, and Catalan from diverging? I've seen it written that 11th...
  3. TheDoofusUser

    Two questions re:An Earlier German Kingdom

    So here I have two questions regarding the potential creation of an earlier German Kingdom as a unified entity. Both questions go down two paths so I'll ask via chronologicallyrics and they're technically multiple questions/scenarios rolled up into one question for each question so please bear...
  4. A Protestant Holy Roman Empire

    Yeah. Anyway, this is my first post here, and it looks like people get banned for pretty much no reason, but I had this idea and I'd like to discuss the possibility of it actually happening. The premise is that the Roman Empire collapses sooner, probably during the Crisis of the 3rd Century...
  5. TheDoofusUser

    WI : Irene dies in 787 and Charlemagne has 7 surviving sons instead of just three and...

    The question is on the tin - What if Irene of Athens, wife of Leo IV and Mother of Constantine VI of the Byzantine Empire before couping the Empire from her son in the 790s, died in 787 and what if Charlemagne has 7 sons outliving him (his sons in order being Pepin "the Hunchback" (illegitimate)...
  6. Lafayette_

    AHC: Franco-German Dual Monarchy

    With a POD sometime after the Congress of Vienna, how could you realistically get France and Germany to unite and share crowns in a way similar to Austria-Hungary? How would the balance of power in Europe and the world shift under this scheme, assuming this union encompasses at least the...
  7. What If Charles III (The Fat) had a Legitimate Heir?

    Charles III was the last continuous Carolingian Emperor/Holy Roman Emperor of the Carolingian Dynasty due to the fact that he had no legitimate heirs to pass his title and power. Though he had a son named Bernard with an unknown Mistress he was never legitimized and there was some speculation...
  8. AHC/WI: Charlemagne and Irene of Athens unite their empires - and they stay together

    Historically speaking, it's unlikely that a marriage alliance between Charlemagne of the Carolingian Empire and Empress Irene of the Byzantine Empire would have brought their two empires together. So, my question is: what would need to change for this to be plausible, even if unlikely? Despite...
  9. No Islam No Holy Roman Empire ?

    with no Arabs to weaken Aquitaine can Charles Martel unite Franks without it can Charlemagne conquer Germany and Italy ? what becomes of Germany and Italy please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  10. Entrerriano

    The Three Carolingians: A Different Outcome to a Great Empire
    Threadmarks: OP - Prologue

    The Three Carolingians A Different Outcome to a Great Empire Charlemagne had four legitimate sons to survive infancy. The eldest, Pepin the Hunchback, became a monk after rebelling against his father, dying in 811. His second son, Charles, died heirless in 811, and his third son, Pepin of...
  11. Effects of a breakup of the Reunited Roman Empire under Charlemagne

    Countless threads have been dedicated to the "Charlemagne-Irene" empire uniting, history changing marriage, now let's assume that after Charlemagne's death the empire is broken up according to Frankish custom, what effects would this break up have on medieval history? Let's assume that Louis...
  12. SunKing105

    WI: Charles I died at the Roncevaux Pass?

    So let's say that not only do the Basques loot the Frankish baggage train,but that Charles I, never to be known as Charlemagne, is either stuck in the rearguard and killed, or that he gets killed from a lucky arrow or something, and subsequently, huge portions of the the army are lost due to the...
  13. The Professor

    Split East & West Francias, with Middle Francian Roman Empire

    So OTL both West and East Francian kingdoms initially fractured before reforming, whilst Middle Francia split leaving nearly a century before Italy/Lombardy and its occasional imperial title were added to Otto's East Francia. So, how do we keep East and West Francias divided while imperial...
  14. AltoRegnant

    WI: Charlemagne Conquers Eastern Spain Instead of Germany?

    OTL, Charlemagne conquered much of Germany, but his attempts to oust the Umayyad from spain failed. Now, i don't know much military history at all, much less during this period, but what if his fortunes were reversed? What if Charlemagne was able to establish a strong base in Iberia, but was...
  15. AltoRegnant

    Biggest Realistic French Empire?

    I'm curious, how big can we get France and her empire without getting into wank territories? Bonus points if you start with a POD between Charlemagne's death and Louis XIV's birth
  16. The Diaries of Desiderius: A Lombard Timeline
    Threadmarks: #1: Prologue

    Prologue “Cherish your days as a knight, my son, for these are days of bravery and glory. At the end of the day, you may wash your hands of the blood of the enemy slain in a fair combat. But when the day will come that you shall be King, how will you wash away the blood of the unknown...
  17. AltoRegnant

    AHC: A British "Charlemagne'

    Few kings have had as successsful a rule as Karl The Great of Francia. Conquering from Catalonia to Bavaria, inspiring a burst of literacy and trade. Father of France and Germany and the first of many Holy Roman Emperors. But there remained two parts of western europe that Karl didn't subsume...
  18. WI: Irene of Athens secures a marriage alliance with Charlemagne

    Theophanes the Confessor claims that after Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, Byzantine Empress Irene of Athens attempted to secure a marriage alliance with him. He further claims that this effort was frustrated by one of her advisors, a eunuch named Aetios. Personally, I think...
  19. Basileus_Komnenos

    DBWI The Carolingian Empire Fragmented Permanently

    As we all know the Carolingian Empire a title which is unofficially given by historians to signify the start of the Carolingian patrimony over Western and Central Europe. This started with Emperor Charlemagne who brought order to Western Europe in a vast empire. The first of its kind since the...
  20. Basileus_Komnenos

    AHC: Italian/Lombard Versions of Charlemagne Creating the HRE

    Assuming Karloman survives and fights with Charlemagne, could a Lombard Version of Charlemagne arise in Western Europe? Italy despite being ravaged by the Gothic Wars and Lombard Invasions was still the wealthiest region in the Mediterranean world. Assuming some military genius...
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