carolingian dynasty

  1. TheDoofusUser

    Two questions re:An Earlier German Kingdom

    So here I have two questions regarding the potential creation of an earlier German Kingdom as a unified entity. Both questions go down two paths so I'll ask via chronologicallyrics and they're technically multiple questions/scenarios rolled up into one question for each question so please bear...
  2. Simone nel Pozzo

    What if Italy and Byzantium fell into a personal union?

    In the late 9th century, Ermengarda, only eligible daughter of Louis II, - king of Italy and otherwise heirless - was bound to marry Constantine, co-emperor and heir apparent of Byzantium. This event was prevented by Constantine's untimely death in 879, but what if that changed and Constantine...
  3. Basileus_Komnenos

    Economic Impacts of a Unified Carolingian Empire

    The Fall of the Carolingian Empire was far from inevitable, and even as late as the Ottonians it almost came back together (Otto the Great managed to gain the fealty of West Francia), it still could have been united in a very decentralized state. Supposing the unity of the Empire was preserved...
  4. What If Charles III (The Fat) had a Legitimate Heir?

    Charles III was the last continuous Carolingian Emperor/Holy Roman Emperor of the Carolingian Dynasty due to the fact that he had no legitimate heirs to pass his title and power. Though he had a son named Bernard with an unknown Mistress he was never legitimized and there was some speculation...
  5. The Professor

    AHC: The Empire of Louis the Pious divided into 5

    So OTL the rebellions of his sons paved the way for Louis the Pious's Francian Roman Empire to be divided into 3, subsequently causing imperial power to decline until Otto of East Francia (Germany) conquered Italy and claimed the imperial mantle & title. In your opinion what's the best way to...
  6. Basileus_Komnenos

    What would be the Socio-economic and Geopolitical Consequences of a French HRE and a Royal Germany?

    Depending on the pod, what sort of internal political and societal developments would occur that would make a French HRE a possibility? How would a Royal Germany function with the Franks now holding the Imperial Crown and hegemony over Western Christendom? I know holding Burgundy would probably...
  7. Pralaya

    Final Light: A Carolingian Timeline
    Threadmarks: CHAPTER 1: The Death of a King

    After lurking for so long in these forums, I've decided to make my own timeline. The style is obviously heavily inspired by Planet of Hats' amazing and awesome Al-Andalus timeline, and I thank him here for his contributions. ---------------- "Right action is better than knowledge; but in order...
  8. WI: All sons of Hugh Capet dies before him

    How different a history of Europe would be (both in a short and in a long terms) assuming that Hugh Capet, first post Carolingian King, would lost all of his sons before his death? This means that there is no House of Capet - including cadet branches... The Kingdom was a t a time and elective...
  9. WI: Irene of Athens secures a marriage alliance with Charlemagne

    Theophanes the Confessor claims that after Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, Byzantine Empress Irene of Athens attempted to secure a marriage alliance with him. He further claims that this effort was frustrated by one of her advisors, a eunuch named Aetios. Personally, I think...
  10. AntoniousTheBro

    WI:the Carolingian dynasty remained in power in France

    so i was pondering about the rule of Charlemagne and his successors and how long they ruled in what is now France. the Carolingian dynasty had ruled the franks as a united kingdom since Pepin the short in 751. the Carolingian would continue to rule what will become France until 987 with the rise...
  11. GauchoBadger

    WI: Charlemagne dies at Roncevaux Pass (778)

    So, basically, assume that not only is the Frankish baggage train massacred and looted at the Battle of Roncevaux Pass in 778 AD, but that the commander of the Franks, King Charles I (never to be known by his epithet ITTL), dies at the hands of the Basques in the ambush. The Song of Roland ends...
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  13. The Professor

    Alternate divisions of alternate divisions of the Frankish Imperium

    OTL the Carolingian realm was divided into 3 then Middle Francia itself divided. The resultant toing and froing lead to the Kingdom of France (West Francia) and the Holy Roman Empire (containing Arelat, Italy, and East-Francia/Germany). What plausible ATL divisions and subsequent divisions and...
  14. GauchoBadger

    WI: Charles the Younger and Pepin of Italy live longer

    In 806 AD, Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne attempted to divide his empire among his three heirs (Charles the Younger, Pepin of Italy, not to be confused with Pepin the Hunchback, and Louis the Pious) in, roughly, the above map's configuration. However, around three years before the death of the...
  15. WI: The Magyars are defeated by East Francia in 900-910

    As in the title, what would happen to Germany, Bohemia and Pannonia if the Magyars are decisively crushed by the Germans during the start of their ascendance in Pannonia? Can the Carolingian dynasty survive?
  16. Mr_Fanboy

    Normans in a Surviving Carolingian Empire

    Using whatever POD you think best accomplishes it, imagine a world where the Carolingian Empire does not collapse during the 9th century, but instead survives as a cohesive and powerful entity for at least several more centuries (in such a scenario it'd probably be colloquially referred to as...
  17. Old1812

    WI: Carolingian Germany continues?

    In 911, the Carolingian dynasty in East Francia ended when the weak, sickly Louis the Child died without issue. The king of East Francia would become an elective position after his death, with the Franconian Conradines and then the Saxons becoming king. But what if Louis the Child had been a...
  18. GauchoBadger

    PC/WI: Lothair I keeps the Carolingian Empire united

    IOTL, the Battle of Fontenoy (841 AD) pitted the forces of Lothair I (and his ally, Pepin II of Aquitaine) against Charles, the Bald, and Louis, the German. Lothair intended to inherit the whole of the Carolingian/Holy Roman Empire for himself, while Charles and Louis intended to divide the...
  19. Baron Steakpuncher

    1066: An age of war (Charlemagne more successful timeline)
    Threadmarks: An Age of War: Iberia

    1066: An age of War As the sun sets on 1065, the world is at an impasse. The great powers of Europe and the Orient eye each other off like fierce lions, circling and growling, beating their chests and looking for any sign that they can punch. While the lesser kings circle around like wolves...
  20. galileo-034

    WI : Continued Carolingian dynasty in France - 10th century

    I just looked at French history of 10th century. It appears that prior to Hugh Capet accession to the throne, the Carolingian dynasty was experiencing some kind of resurgence under Louis IV and his son Lothar. In 922, nobles from both Lotharingia and Francia revolted against Charles III. In...
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