burgundy

  1. WI: Margaret of York has a son

    In OTL, Margaret of York, daughter of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York and Cecily Neville had a childless marriage with Charles the Bold. But what if Margaret had given birth to a son in 1473, named Phillip (after Charles' father). What would be the butterflies of this occurrence...
  2. RedKing

    WI: Maximilian I dies in 1478?

    As the tin says, what if Maximilian Habsburg died in 1478 shortly after the birth of his son Philip? Obviously, Mary of Burgundy is going to remarry asap since she needs a powerful husband to help defend Burgundy from France but to whom? All of Edward IV’s brothers are married and his Woodville...
  3. No Jagiellonian inheritance; alternate division of Habsburg realms

    I'm currently trying to explore a scenario inwhich Louis II of Hungary doesn't die at the Battle of Mohács. Putting aside the exact developments concerning Hungary itself, what I wish to discuss here is the potential butterflies West of the Leitha. This is what I settled on so far: Margaret of...
  4. Zestinobambino

    The Burgundy-Naples Alliance

    Mary the Rich (1457 - 1482) was probably the wealthiest heiress of her time. As the only child of Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, Mary was the heir to the Duchy of Burgundy and all the lands that her father and grandfather had acquired, including most of the Netherlands. Naturally, that...
  5. PC: Philip the Good marries Isabella of Lorraine

    EDIT: after some delibiration I have decided to make this thread Plausibility Check instead of What If as it originally was. Probably the updated describtion fits much better to what I want this thread to be compared to the original one. Disclaimer 1: the idea of the PoD does not belong to me...
  6. A Portuguese TL, So tem um Deus. Portugal Inherits. Burgundy...

    CHAPTER 1 The Marriage. The Young Prince of Portugal, Joao II is still waiting for him to suceed his father, he has alot of plans with the nation of Portugal. He bravely joined his Father in the campaign in Morocco against Arzilha and is ready to become King of Portugal when its needed. His...
  7. The Gybson Boy

    A Big and Happy Spanish Habsburg Family: Charles V and Isabella of Portugal has 13 children
    Threadmarks: Charles V and Isabella of Portugal Children

    A strange situation of the Habsburg brothers, Charles V and Ferdinand I is that while Charles V and his wife Isabella of Portugal had only three surviving children, Ferdinand I and Anna of Bohemia and Hungary had thirteen children, all of whom reached adulthood, which what would happen if...
  8. eliamartin65

    Snapshots from Other Worlds
    Threadmarks: Intro

    Inspired by @isabella's Scenes from Other Worlds thread, this will be a repository for family trees and snippets from possible TLs. The ideas presented here may or may not be expanded into full TLs. Enjoy.
  9. The Kingdom of Lorraine

    What if Charles the Bold had more than one daughter by Isabella of Bourbon? In particular what if Mary of Burgundy had an older sister and so was not her father‘s heiress presumptive?
  10. What if the Habsburgs didn't inherit Spain and Bohemia-Hungary?

    As you all know, the Habsburgs sold their soul to the devil to roll nat 20s in the 15th and early 16th century which got them Burgundy, Spain and Bohemia&Hungary. Now what if they only inherited Burgundy but not the others? This can be achieved survive by having Joannas brother John or Miguel...
  11. eliamartin65

    PC: Charles the Bold's niece as Duchess of Burgundy in 1477

    Hello everyone! I'm here with a plausibility check on the following scenario: A hypothetical niece of Charles the Bold (whom I've taken the liberty to named Emma, after an old Queen of the Franks) becomes Duchess of Burgundy. So, Philip III of Burgundy and Isabella of Portugal have more kids...
  12. RedKing

    WI: Henry VII’s lifespan was as long as his mother’s

    On this day, Henry VII passed away at the age of 52. He was succeeded by his son, Henry VIII who broke his betrothal to Eleanor of Austria and married Catherine of Aragon instead. As we all know, this led to the King’s Great Matter and the split between the Church of England and the Catholic...
  13. FernandoPerla

    Burgundian State

    How you picture a Burgundian state, composed of French, Walloon and Flemish people, nowadays?
  14. eliamartin65

    Emma, Duchess of Brabant - An Austro-Burgundian TL
    Threadmarks: Rules

    Inspired by my current Burgundian Empress TL, I have decided to make that scenario a collaborative TL between myself, @RedKing, @Prince of Permsia, @Reyne and @EdwardRex. We won't be accepting new players. Now, onto the rules for this little game: The starting date is March 1452. Each post...
  15. FernandoPerla

    Kingdom of Burgundy

    Charles the Bold, duke of Burgundy (1433 –1477), wanted the Burgundian state to become a kingdom. How do you think he could have achieved this? He needed full autonomy from both the Holy Roman Emperor and the king of France. Do you think with this full autonomy, Burgundy could have become even...
  16. The Grand Duchy of the West - A Valois-Burgundian TL

    Hello everyone! Consider this my new and improved Burgundian Timeline starting from the marriage of Charles the Bold and Margaret of York. Rather then continue to update chapters in my other tl, which is just gonna make everyone confused given the comments from older chapters, I'm just gonna...
  17. eliamartin65

    WI: Charles the Bold has a surviving brother

    Hi everyone, second post here. During my research on the Burgundians/Habsburgs, I noted that Charles the Bold - father of Mary of Burgundy - had two slightly elder brothers who died shortly before Charles's birth in 1433. But let's say that Isabella of Portugal manages to have another son with...
  18. kasumigenx

    A different Burgundian succession
    Threadmarks: New heir

    On 1476, Charles the Bold would reconcile with John of Burgundy-Nevers and disinherited his daughter and made John the heir if he does not have a son to make her as the bride that would guarantee imperial support on Burgundy and married Mary of Burgundy to Maximilian of Austria, he would have a...
  19. TheDoofusUser

    WI - Imperial France and Royal Germany

    So I've seen this asked a dozen or so times on this thread, but what if we had France be the HRE and Germany be the Royal state IOTL. Let's say, in the 843 Treaty of Verdun, Middle Francia is given Flanders and Switzerland but West Francia is given Burgundy and Provence. In the Partition of...
  20. AHC/WI : Permanent Partition of Francia into Neustria and Austrasia .

    The Franks had an established tradition of splitting up their realms between the sons with the Kings seen as ruling the same realm . However these failed to produce a scenario similar to that of the HRE and West Francia . In your Opinion , what would be best way to keep the respective realms of...
Top