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The ARW was arguably the closest France ever got to decisively defeat Britain at sea. France was doing pretty well up to the point of the battle, but then they were decisively defeated. After the battle of the Saintes, France would go on to lose half the fleet they had in the Caribbean. So they...

Originally this was going to be a thread about María Theresa being queen of Spain but plans changed and I preferred to do it from the POD from which it is inspired. By early 1709, the French state was bankrupt, while the harsh winter of 1708-1709 caused widespread famine. Desperate to end the...

On October 31, 1873, the Count of Chambord refused to exchange the white flag with the tricolor flag. But let's imagine that he accepted it and made himself king. Let's also imagine that he had a son and heir, how would France have developed until the debacle of 1940? Would the Bourbons have...

LA GASTONNADE ___________________________________________ What if Gaston d'Orléans become King of France ? “ Jamais règne ne fut plus doux, plus tranquille, ni plus heureux que l'a été le sien ; et, en vérité, de semblables princes devraient naître un peu plus souvent, ou ne point mourir...

The premise of this is that Louis Napoléon doesn't get into any position of power. Maybe he has an accident or never gets out of Ham. Whatever the reason, what sort of affects could this have on France and the wider world? Paris may well be different without his sponsorship of Haussmann and the...

What if Jeanne de Valois and John II, Duke of Bourbon had children?

After years of reading alternate historical discussions and stories on this board, I have decided to make my first post. I thank all of you for the marvellous historical insights and creativity. This scenario is rather specific, but lately, I have been reading about British foreign policy...

It seems that Emperor Napoleon I had enough time and contact with his 2nd wife, Marie Louise to try for another child. Let's say that he's lucky - and during/shortly after his visit in Dresden imperial couple is blessed with twin sons. And Napoleon now have three sons. Assuming that they are...

French royalists are split into three camps; the Legitimists, the Orleanists, and the Bonapartists. The Bonapartists want a Bonaparte restoration, the Orleanists want the more liberal Orleans branch of the Bourbons to take over, and the Legitimists wanted the mainline Bourbon branch to take the...

Louis XIII dies childless - which isn't entirely unrealistic as it took 23 years of marriage for him to produce Louis XIV - and his brother Gaston, Duke of Orléans predeceases him. We then only need Henri II de Bourbon, Prince of Condé to die sometime before 1643 for the Grand Condé to succeed...

What if the French House of Bourbon went extinct before Napoleon abdicated on April 11th 1814? Louis Joseph, Prince of Condé fails to flee France after the storming of the Bastille in 1789. He is executed in the Reign of Terror along with his son Louis Henri and grandson Louis Antoine. The...

First of all, I urge everyone to familiarise themselves with the terms Legitimist, Orleanist, and Bonapartist on the chart. Henri, Count of Chambord (Henri V on chart) was the last male line descendant of the French branch of the House of Bourbon. He almost became King of France in 1871, but...

IOTL, Leopoldo was the third son of Francis I of the Two Sicilies. His eldest brother Ferdinand became Ferdinand II and their middle brother, Charles, married morgantically and renounced his right to the throne. Leopold, as Count of Syracuse, enacted a number of reforms in Sicily that made him...

Less than two months after becoming king of Spain for the first time, Ferdinand VII and his deposed father, Charles IV, were called upon by Napoleon to go to Bayonne to, officially, sort out the situation that was developing as a result of the Tumult of Aranjuez and the Dos de Mayo Uprising...

In 1194, Philippe Auguste would marry the Mahaut, Lady of Bourbon who would provide connections in Aquitaine as she will be useful in his own dealings with Richard I of England in his territory in Aquitaine, Mahaut would provide him of a son named Philip, Lord of Bourbon (1196), who would...

Recently, we had some discuss about Henri III/IV and his first wife Marguerite having children and the consequences for French succession. But what if these two do NOT marry in the first place? Let's say Charles IX and Catherine de Medici renounce to the controversial idea of this marriage. What...

Ever since Henri's death in 1883, the Spanish Bourbons have held one of the claims to the French throne. In an atl where France avoids it's disastrous 18th century, was it likely for the French Bourbons to die out? If the main line does extinguish, does the throne go to the closest French...

Assume the following: 1) Louis XIII's streak of stillborn offspring does not abate in 1638, and he dies childless. 2) This does not butterfly away the battlefield death of the Count of Soissons. 3) The Grand Condé has a daughter rather than a son in 1643; he and his wife, as IOTL, have no...

Prince Henri, Count of Chambord was disputedly King of France from 2 to 9 August 1830 as Henry V, although he was never officially proclaimed as such. Afterwards, he was the Legitimist pretender to the throne of France from 1844 until he died in 1883. He Didn't Have a Son and So The Male Line of...

June 10, 1794 Once a National Hero of France, The Marquis found himself on the run. After the Royal Flight, the veteran had been slandered by the likes Danton and Robespierre, and was determined to save France from their tyranny. As the year since the royal execution, he had become increasingly...