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  1. Why do people on this site unanimously agree that a Nazi European victory via defeating the USSR in Fall Blau and ceasefire with west is impossible?

    For the record; on Nov 17, 22.Pz reported 38 tanks as operational (Einsatzbereit)l: Pz II: 2 Pz III lang: 10 Pz III 7.5: 10 Pz IV kurz: 1 Pz IV lang: 10 Bef.Pz( 38t): 5 With a further 19 in repair and 50 suffering from technical failures during the road march to the area of operation and in...

  2. D-Day in 1943: Plausibility and operations in France

    You seem to have gotten some dates mixed up. AG South launched its attack several days before the invasion of Sicily.

  3. D-Day in 1943: Plausibility and operations in France

    Sorry if you've answered this before in one of the previous 42 pages. But at what point - in this ATL - do you believe the Germans would realise that something was about to happen in the west? On the morning of the invasion? Or sometime before?

  4. WWII Eastern Front 1942

    Not the best quote there is. They could have succeeded if provided with the resources they needed in order to succeed.

  5. WWII Eastern Front 1942

    Yes, that is a fair estimate - provided they had wanted to supply 26 divisions by air, using the same estimates for munition and fuel consumption as Army Group Center did in the same period. In addition to your valid concerns about supplying an advancing army deep into the Caucasus. Now...

  6. WWII Eastern Front 1942

    Just a quick reply to provide some data from the German planning documents for Orkan in late summer 1942. Daily requirements for 2. Panzerarmee (5 Pz Div, 1 Mot. Div, 6 Inf. Div) was estimated to be 600 t Munition, 900 cbm Fuel and 380 t of food for a total of 1800 tons. Daily requirements for...

  7. WWII Eastern Front 1942

    NARA T311 R216 (should be available online for free) provides details about the unit and supply requirements AG Center deemed necessary to launch Orkan/Wirbelwind/Derfflinger in August/September 1942.

  8. WI: German Victory at Stalingrad

    By the time of Uranus, the Germans had 9 infantry, 3 panzer and 3 motorized divisions holding a roughly 75km frontline around Stalingrad and the Volga. While 5 infantry and 1 (weak) panzer division from 6th Army held a roughly 100km frontline northwest of Stalingrad. Assuming Stalingrad is...

  9. Stalin listens to warning of Barbarrossa in 1941

    I think we can both agree that the initial period of war was very chaotic on the Soviet side, where accurate reporting was near to impossible. And that a significant number of soldiers were enlisted, but the record of that event was lost in the chaos. So I believe a lot of those 500k (or...

  10. Stalin listens to warning of Barbarrossa in 1941

    I know Krivosheev speculates that 500k was lost in the initial phase of the war "off the books". But being off the books, and being unarmed is two different things. What's your source of the latter claim?

  11. What If: Leningrad falls in 1941

    An interesting POD could be Germany keeping Lithuania as the original Molotov-Ribbentropp dictated. Thus putting them much closer to Leningrad from the start. Of course, the original document gave the SU a bigger portion of Poland, so that would have some ripple-effects as well. In order to...

  12. Ww2 Allied victory without USA?

    Another reason would be Enigma, and the change of that setup which occurred early in 1942, and hampered the Allied codebreaking effort for most of the year.

  13. Ww2 Allied victory without USA?

    If you dig deeper into that list, you will discover that most of the 45 British CVE were actually built in the US as well.

  14. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    I was wondering if I should order the Soviet General Staff Study. I assume it is this you're referring to: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Moscow-1941-42-Operations-Counter-Offensive/dp/1912390450/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=soviet+general+staff+study+moscow&qid=1590697258&sr=8-2 Would you...

  15. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    Minor nitpick, but according to Sharp/Radey, it doesn't seem as if they moved by train. Unsure about this as well. Lopukhovsky does mention that 5 new people's militia divisions were created in October on the basis of previously formed workers and destroyer battalions. On Oct 24, they were...

  16. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    Some clarification on the units I mentioned. The 8th Tank Brigade and 46th Motorcycle Regiment was the vanguard, and made an an impressive 200-250km forced march south from the Valdai Hills on Oct 14, and reached Torzhok on the morning of Oct 15. If the end destination in this ATL is Klin, a...

  17. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    Thank you! I've tried to summarize the situation below. The Oct 1 and Nov 1 placements are from the official Soviet OOB. The Oct 10, 20 and 27 columns are based on your input. The Oct 10 strength figures are from Lopukhovsky's The Viaz'ma Catastrophe. It would seem that most of the "new"...

  18. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    I don't have Stahel's book available, so I just wanted to compare some notes with you here. In Zetterling/Frankson's The drive for Moscow, they provide the following dates(*) for newly arriving units (**). * they do note that these are approximate dates, and that not all parts of the formation...

  19. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    I agree that that in itself does not make him right. But what it does show, is that the idea of pushing east instead of north, was something people that were there believed in as well. And that it isn't an idea limited to people with perfect hindsight. It should be pointed out that the...

  20. How easy would it be for Germany to capture Moscow in 1941?

    Here's a map from the above mentioned "The defense of Moscow 1941 - The northern flank" which shows the position of 41st Mot Corps on Oct 10. On Oct 11, the 1 Pz Div captured Zubtsov, while the 36th Mot Div captured Pogoreloye Gorodische. On Oct 14, the Corps had moved north and captured...
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