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  1. An Earlier Two Ocean Navy Act

    Which was the line of thought at the time - torpedo protection only became more important after the start of the war, and protection from aircraft received the attention first. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the naval engagements through the start of the war were settled with gunfire -...

  2. An Earlier Two Ocean Navy Act

    I'm quoting Friedman in US Cruisers. The 8000 ton cruiser was shelved as it didn't have the capabilities - and 8000 tons was determined during the 1937-38 light cruisers studies as the minimum tonnage allowable for a mixed-caliber light cruiser - at the time, protection for a 9 gun vessel at...

  3. An Earlier Two Ocean Navy Act

    Wichita follow-ons would not be quite similar to the original vessel. She was deemed too unstable and to have wasted too much weight in terms of displacement. some modifications would have been made. Helena's class had known similar issues, and it was not desired to repeat them. The...

  4. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    The Cruiser No. 39? Est commissioned 33-34 while the treaty limit was still in place? Doubtful. A later CLV (or CF) designed 34-35, commissioned 38-39? Possibly depending on design. The latest ones, at 12k tons and designed 38-39, commissioned 40-41? They'd become carriers on the slips for...

  5. Wi France allies with confederates

    Is France blockading Canada as well? EDIT: Also, what is that source you're using? Wanted to take a look-see, but couldn't find it. Assuming it's a snapshot of a google books page.

  6. Wi France allies with confederates

    Honestly, I'd be very cautious about bringing the Russians into this. I've not seen any compelling evidence that the Russians cared to join the Americans besides a few shows of sympathy to the Union. There was nothing that says that they would intervene in the war (nothing that I've ever seen...

  7. Wi France allies with confederates

    The Gloire is rated at 4.7" maximum, but I don't know the breakdown of her armor profile. The Monitor has 5" of armor, decreasing to 3" below the waterline. Not to mention that the turret on Monitor was 8" thick, and the turret on succeeding vessels was 11". The hulls of both vessels had 30"...

  8. Wi France allies with confederates

    Coastal ironclads that would have made any tight blockade nearly impossible to perform, and would have forced to assume a distant station. And where would these blockaders base out of? St. Pierre & Miquelon? Norfolk is far too close to the Union forces and could reasonably be taken, so you'd...

  9. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    Forgot to reply to this... I mean, from one of the lists I've done... Harpy, Mystic, Lorelei, Undine, Nymph in addition to Syren and Sylph, mentioned above. Different strain on the theme.

  10. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    Thing is, this is cruiser tonnage. The carrier tonnage can only be used for carriers, but the London Naval Treaty, which the Congress ratified, explicitly allows for a certain percentage of cruiser tonnage to be built as hybrid cruisers, not carriers. These ships would likely be laid down late...

  11. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    Depends on the era, again. If it's the 1931 flight deck cruiser, it would be the CLV. If it's the 1935 flight deck cruiser, it would be the CF (they kept on changing their minds). An alternate designation could be used as well, too.

  12. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    But we see that with a classic cruiser paradigm being broken, that can shift - with the large cruisers, they didn't use city names, but an intermediate territorial name. The hybrids, by virtue of being hybrid with another type of ship rather than just being a cruiser but bigger are even more...

  13. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    For that matter, one of these could get Intrepid, while CVs stay limited to the names of battles. Still, plenty of trends to follow, so take your pick xD There was no OTL naming trend, so this would be an ATL author's dream as they can pick anything within reason.

  14. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    Of course. Just giving my suggestion :P Heck, you could even name them after cities as well if so desired. it really would depend on the political environment that would emerge when they're built.

  15. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    That actually happened as designs got later and later. (for the single-ended guns). The designs to the late 30s eventually devolved to two 6" turrets vs the three. (or, in one case, one 8" turret and 3 5" turrets). That is tied directly to the aviation becoming more important in the design...

  16. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    Pretty much why I wanted to avoid putting the catapult forward. You could just squeeze it in, but it would put every single main gun at risk. The AA mounts would likely be reduced. Perhaps 2x2 twin fore and aft of the island, either the hypothetical twin 5"/25, or more likely a 5"/38...

  17. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    As for the original purpose of the thread... :P Here's a quick and dirty image I did some time ago to show the CLV with the catapult forward. This is roughly the length that'd be necessary. Now, I'm certain that more of the deck would hae been built out; this was just for illustrative at the...

  18. WI the U.S. Navy had built the flying deck cruiser?

    If we are talking about the original flight deck cruiser (cruiser no 39), then there's a good chance it would have been built early on. The Naval War College in the late 1920s was very favorable to the hybrid. With both the 12 aircraft (armored against 8" guns) and the 24 aircraft (armored...

  19. Effect of a Nazi Victory on the US/Britain?

    Thanks. It's been a while.

  20. Effect of a Nazi Victory on the US/Britain?

    I mean, what was the German fleet available for Sealion? I think it may have been a dozen warships larger than torpedoboat, with the largest being a predreadnaught? I think there were something like 4 cruisers and 6 destroyers or something similar. Bigger question here is why the Luftwaffe...
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