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  1. Norman Guiscard invades Fatimid Egypt instead of Byzantine Empire

    In case of normans holding Egypt, maybe ethiopians give them a hand...

  2. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    JBS and Braskem, more than happy with these announcements. Maybe Vale could see an opportunity for iron?

  3. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Im not understanding why DRG winning will benefit Russia and China. I tried to read about this war and its a Rubik Cube, I don't understand anything. However, Try securing Gabon and Congo (DRC immediate neighbors) its an interesting position, besides the intelligence assets. Who knows what...

  4. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Interesting the game Brunei is playing: Brunei has the oil card, they are kind of self sufficient (they can exchange oil for everything), so they dont want to commit to any block. It seems they dont care about who is leading SEA as long as they can sell oil and derivates. But also gave...

  5. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    For a while I thought Fahim offered Try Osama Bin Laden location, but it doesnt make sense. Great chapter!

  6. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Mr President, you have a phone call from Mr. Hussein. I dont know how are the relationships between Australia and Indonesia, but they are unusually hostile...

  7. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Oh, my bad! Anyways, standardization is a good practice to add value for export.

  8. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    I like the National Priority Standardization List. Its a first step to Indonesian protected denomination of origin, right? I foresee sago on this list, with coffee and many other products.

  9. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Many familiar names still serving time as ministers, guess thats a testament to efficency.

  10. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Wow, Luo will be a challenge for SA.

  11. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    If Iraq war is butterflied (Iraq broke relations with Egypt because Egypt joined Kuwait) then Try could have another potential trade partner.

  12. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Imagine a Try-Saddam summit...

  13. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Great updates. One of the best updates ITTL. ITTL Try already walked his own path and not the path of the previous presidents before him and I think this election was merely the demonstration of his own path fruits, not being dictated by former voices echoing through PKPB, Tutut, Mega and so...

  14. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Waiting for the reactions across the world. Some will be uneasy, but many others will be pleased to hear Try still in charge. Another way to say a continuation of pragmatism? realpolitik? SEA oriented politics?

  15. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Its time.

  16. Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

    Akbar enters the ring :biggrin:

  17. Post here historical leaders who were of an ethnic minority (or foreign ethnic group) from the country that they ruled over.

    Egypt Sultan Baybars was kipchak- a slave turned sultan. A minority among minorities.

  18. Post here historical leaders who were of an ethnic minority (or foreign ethnic group) from the country that they ruled over.

    IIRC some of main Chinese leaders and generals were Hakka.

  19. What countries can claim to be the oldest nation states?

    If the Basque Country were an independent entity for most of its history, im sure it would qualify too as an oldest nation.

  20. What countries can claim to be the oldest nation states?

    Not a country, but current north ossetians are whats left of schythians. Edit: Forgot about Georgia.
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