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  1. joea64

    Until Every Drop of Blood Is Paid: A More Radical American Civil War

    I find it interesting that in both book and movie, as terribly flawed - damaged, in fact - as Scarlett is, she often comes across (unintentionally, I don't doubt) as the only sane woman in the room when it comes to the "Lost Cause", so to speak, and Rhett even more so (we have our introduction...
  2. joea64

    Until Every Drop of Blood Is Paid: A More Radical American Civil War

    I'm not sure about that. One of Napoleon's famous maxims - many of them may be apocryphal, but I'm fairly certain he said this one - was that "the moral is to the material as three to one". As I just posted, twenty years of almost unending conflict had worn down most of the peoples of Europe...
  3. joea64

    Until Every Drop of Blood Is Paid: A More Radical American Civil War

    When Napoleon returned to France in the spring of 1815 and re-assumed the throne, the numerical equation (or what the Soviets would later call the "correlation of forces") was grim. His only real hope was to decisively defeat at least one of the enemy army groupings facing him and then count on...
  4. joea64

    Your Personal Pop Culture Utopia timeline

    So OK, one more thing, at least for tonight. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. doesn't get caught up in the "camp" fad that swept US television in the mid-1960's due to Batman '66 (it's instructive to note that a little camp goes a long way, and that Batman itself only lasted about three seasons), and...
  5. joea64

    Your Personal Pop Culture Utopia timeline

    Just going to drop one more thing. The whole incredibly irksome (not to mention having necrophile overtones) of prematurely dead stars being transmuted into quasi-saints, if not outright deities, never happens because, starting with James Dean and going right on to Heath Ledger and later, most...
  6. joea64

    Your Personal Pop Culture Utopia timeline

    I'm a big Fleetwood Mac fan (or was back when my hearing was still good enough - I've been hard of hearing since birth, requiring hearing aids), so here are several possible better outcomes for various events in the 54-year history of the group: - Peter Green never has his LSD-influenced mental...
  7. joea64

    Your Personal Pop Culture Utopia timeline

    As long as I'm on the subject of Hollywood: The period of explosive innovation from the late 1960's to the late 1970's known as "The New Hollywood", which produced so many of the greatest works in cinema history, isn't shot in the head by the double whammy of blockbuster movies (with all due...
  8. joea64

    Your Personal Pop Culture Utopia timeline

    Hope I don't get into trouble for answering a 3 1/2-year-old post, but I literally just discovered this thread this evening (I've been on a self-imposed fishing trip for a while, by the way): I'm going (as the Supreme Court phrase goes) to concur in part and dissent in part. The MPAA has been...
  9. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    Oh hey, I just remembered something that I don't think has been covered yet. In 1963-64 there was a major epidemic of rubella (then popularly called "German measles") in the U.S.. One of the side effects is that when a pregnant woman comes down with rubella, her baby has a high likelihood of...
  10. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    You probably know that Goldwater and JFK were close friends, notwithstanding their diametric political opposition, and at one point at least semi-seriously discussed barnstorming the country together in 1964, holding debates on the spot wherever they went. Kennedy once famously inscribed a...
  11. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    Yes, it was referred to a few pages back.
  12. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    And by the way, please find some way to not have "camp", in the sense of the wildly-exaggerated-for-comic-and-absurdist-effect style, overrun American TV during the mid-to-late-1960's. I admit to Batman '66 still being my favorite version of the Dark Knight, as that was the first exposure I ever...
  13. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    You'll need to get around the problem of Hunter's wife, model/actress Joan Bartlett. While it was thought for many years that Hunter was let go because many people, including Roddenberry himself, considered him too "wooden" in his style to generate the charisma needed for the lead role, more...
  14. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    Sure! I still want to see Vaughn as the charming and redoubtable Napoleon Solo, so maybe we could have him leave the show (his character could be killed in action, possibly) to join U.N.C.L.E.. IOTL, he didn't really like his role on The Lieutenant anyway, because he considered it to be too much...
  15. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    Right; and Roddenberry had been working on the series concept and peddling it to the networks for quite a while before that. (By the way, his previous series, The Lieutenant, starred Robert Vaughn, who would later go on to The Man from U.N.C.L.E. ITTL, while that short-lived - one season -...
  16. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    You're welcome! Also remember that Star Trek is likely coming up in a couple of years. I don't think Gene Roddenberry would be butterflied out of his dream/concept of a "Wagon Train to the Stars", as he originally called it; indeed, his idealistic vision would likely be amplified. It's going to...
  17. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    True; Nixon did receive Elvis in the Oval Office IOTL, after all.
  18. joea64

    A Time For Greatness: The Alternate Presidency of John F. Kennedy and beyond

    I think the butterflies are really starting to pick up in pop culture now. For one thing, with Elvis dead at the height of his popularity - whatever else one can say about him - we won't have to witness the spectacle of his decline in the 1970's. On the other hand, the number of "Elvis...
  19. joea64

    Where The Wind Blows: A Winston Churchill Presidency

    A variant on the scenario I've posited is where Randolph, upon his stunning resignation as Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1886 (I believe, it may have been 1885), which scuppered his political career in Britain - he was already suffering from syphilis by then, which may have affected his...
  20. joea64

    Where The Wind Blows: A Winston Churchill Presidency

    Not to mention what happens if Winston does as he did OTL and joins the army again in the First World War (he wouldn't have Gallipoli hanging over him TTL, so maybe something else, or maybe he just goes and volunteers in a particularly intense fit of patriotism?) I can see the TTL version of the...
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