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  1. Unbuilt Canada

    What I have a hard time seeing is Confederation happening if (Central) Canada winds up with some kind of peerage... MAYBE something could be managed in the Maritimes, but bringing any form of western settlement in is hard to picture. And that's without the elephant in the room that something...

  2. Unbuilt Canada

    Conventional bankruptcy runs headlong into just how long it took for CNR to break even. Especially on the GTP side of things there’s really not a whole lot of prospect for making it work. My understanding is CPR was pretty enthusiastic about acquiring CanNor whole cloth, but the political take...

  3. Unbuilt Canada

    The thing about Central is that being so closely tied to the Mount Royal Tunnel makes the fact of it's existence one of those "OTL is actually kinda weird and longshot" situations. By all rights it never should have happened. With that said, in a more European like scenario with stronger build...

  4. Unbuilt Canada

    I think you’re onto something with that concept of optionally crewed trains in a light metro type operation, and would add that DLR really does seem to have been onto something with using very much s-bahn like trains in full automation. Things would look rather different if ICTS and the CLRV...

  5. Unbuilt Canada

    Winnipeg is the big and obvious one. The southwest Transitway would have looked a lot like other ICTS proposals, and much of what would otherwise make sense there would work very well elevated. Edmonton is really obvious (bear in mind that it was one of the few genuinely serious post-war...

  6. Unbuilt Canada

    Short answer is s (ever?)green line. I was thinking about just running it independently, but rethought that on the basis that branching evergreen trains between Cambie and Broadway would address that the line capacity in the east would otherwise be limited by the shared downtown tunnel with...

  7. Unbuilt Canada

    When I pencil it out on service pattern there's really only two lines at Lougheeed, and I'm inclined to think not track sharing given the angles and configuration. OTOH Brentwood does seem kind of unreasonable, especially after a North Shore line: Using anything BUT Lougheed for the gondola...

  8. Unbuilt Canada

    Generally agree with all of this, but I'd add that my concept of a Kipling - Downtown route (more or less OTL in light of talk of an Ontario Line / 407 Loop) is south from Kipling east via Queensway / Gardiner and then the obvious waterfront route. Not terrible, makes a kind of sense, especially...

  9. Unbuilt Canada

    I was about to say that I've really got to write a triumphalist ICTS timeline sometime. Some thoughts though: Does Vancouver still reuse the Dunsmuir Tunnel? It made a lot of sense, but so did the early vision of Expo through running onto Cambie by way of a new tunnel. Any chance in this...

  10. Unbuilt Canada

    This actually does hit on my thought on the RT… that That if it was built I think there’s a very real chance that a lower city east/west line would be seen as very closely related to ALRT. There’s honestly an interesting parallel between to the Sheppard subway’s relationship to ALRT. I think...

  11. Unbuilt Canada

    With apologies for a double post, I'm going to toss a new project out there that I really long for, particularly in terms of what might have been if it had been the pilot project instead of the SRT: While it would have missed Mohawk College (and badly needed provision for a station at the TH&B...

  12. Unbuilt Canada

    Very much this; done properly this isn't particularly special in any kind of engineering terms. Done on the cheap as a sidewalk roof by a BIA.... then I can see problems happening. Honestly, with the way downtown Kitchener and its malls went, this thing might actually have wound up pretty...

  13. Unbuilt Canada

    On that transit note, I have to imagine that there are a lot of trolleybuses involved... Aside from the obvious availability of Hydro in the notable communities the project would be getting off the ground just as a lot of the first wave post-war systems were headed for abandonment largely by way...

  14. Unbuilt Canada

    It does seem to me like the Georgian Bay canal getting built might be exactly the kind of kick needed for Mid-Canada to actually happen.

  15. Unbuilt Canada

    I like, but honestly think that it's a bit early for something so big to happen with anything like sensitivity to First Nations, or much to pollution control or garbage disposal. As a timeline I'd think it's probably more plausible to position the thing as a last hurrah of both the best and...

  16. Unbuilt Canada

    In terms of weird street enclosure stuff, there was a seemingly reasonably serious look at enclosing King Street in Kitchener. The full enclosure version connecting to both downtown malls is more unique and compelling to me, but I believe it was a more limited partial sidewalk canopy that was...

  17. Unbuilt Canada

    When I was playing around with a timeline for a larger timeline largely intended to help the railways my thinking was something along the lines of avoiding the Pacific Scandal and thereby opening the CPR about ten years earlier while also having someone (likely involved with CP shipping) bring...

  18. Unbuilt Canada

    With apologies for the phones scans: I've always been rather fond of the version of T&E Toronto access using Taylor Creek and the Canadian Northern ROW, although the Coxwell version would have been very rapid transit like by my understanding.

  19. Unbuilt Canada

    Federal Avenue in Toronto is one of my real favorites: A grand avenue from the main entrance of Union Station into what became Nathan Phillips Square and was pretty much always slated for eventual slum clearance. Picture it with one of the more traditional versions of a new city hall / court...

  20. Unbuilt Canada

    Obviously inspired by Unbuilt Britain, a thread for unbuilt "stuff" in Canada, post-1900. To get things started: The Georgian Bay Ship Canal would in essence have created a shipping route up the Ottawa Valley direct into the upper lakes. Scale of the project and finances aside, wow that really...
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