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  1. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]
    Threadmarks: Chapter 7: UK-French relations, part 1

    Cameron and Sarkozy sign treaties between UK and France. Following the events of the 1950s and Egypt's forced nationalisation of the Suez Canal, the United States and United Kingdom continued to drift in their approach to international relations. The two countries had been some of the closest...

  2. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    Apologies for misunderstanding, but I think we're talking about the same thing. OTL the UK shrunk it's military down and down to just act as part of NATO. Here, it's not shrunk quite so far; the overseas regions demand a UK presence east of suez and in the Caribbean, but the Falklands is still a...

  3. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    Roughly speaking agree - a more stable Anglophone Africa (ie. East Africa) will undoubtedly have more trade deals, but at the same time Apartheid South Africa is still there which will throw some spanners in the work. Privatisation wise, I see Heath as withdrawing from the "free market"...

  4. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]
    Threadmarks: Chapter 6: Heath

    Ted Heath Conservative Premiership, 1978-1983, won election 1978 and 1982 Ted Heath led the United Kingdom in to Europe with support from both sides of the House of Commons The Heath Premiership came to power as Labour fractured into splinter Labour and Socialist parties at a crossroads for...

  5. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    ....and back from Easter holidays. Broadly speaking, you're correct. The first two are broadly speaking the same as OTL; the big difference is the third option (integration) being available for some places. I can't see any territory not on an island being welcomed in to the UK. Independence...

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    The simple answer is that we have separate league systems as they largely predate modern sport - the English football league system dates from 1888. And once it was in place, it wasn't getting changed easily, and there's not been any real requirement to merge the leagues. There's some scope for...

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    I still flick forwards and backwards about Mauritius, but otherwise I think the only other viable prospects are the other British Overseas Territories or Crown Dependencies. Jamaica is perhaps possible, but it would be hugely expensive. Also, with a population the size of Jamaica, you have the...

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    I think in the long run, and post airline-deregulation, there'll be a lot more holiday makers going to Malta, Seychelles, and the West Indies on holidays instead of Spain as you say. On the flip side; Spain & Portugal are still going to be interesting destinations for lots of families on price...

  9. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]
    Threadmarks: Chapter 5: Callaghan

    James Callaghan Labour Premiership, 1973-1978, won election in 1973 Callaghan began to forge closer relations with European nations outside of France, such as West Germany, following further actions in the USA such as the Nixon Shocks which continued to alienate allies. James Callaghan came...

  10. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    Should have qualified my comments better! 1981 unequivocally mentions that the Channel Islands and Manx are entitled to UK citizenship, but pre-1981 I wasn't sure of their status. I've found that the 1948 act mentions the Channel Islands and Manx as basically part of the "United Kingdom...

  11. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    This is something I've been pondering. The UK has a serious cash flow issue in the 1960s and 1970s, but equally the UK wasted money hand over fist repeatedly in the same time period. I don't want to overdo it with "the UK makes every smart decision", but I want to sketch something out about...

  12. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    Maybe poorly phrased my post; I can't see that happening. I just can't see Westminster granting a full English devolution; it would present far too much of a challenge to Westminster sovereignty. I can see greater English devolution to the regions though; something like a patchwork of English...

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    Nice bit of morning feedback to respond to :) You had a referendum to join (well technically to remain in 1975!), and a referendum to leave. There was no referendum in OTL over trade deals, metrication, decimalisation or any other internal reform which made trade easier with Europe and other...

  14. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    Yes and no. The "Second Empire", to use your terminology, is well gone, but the remainder will be the economic relationships with the new nations. That's drying up, as new trade relationships become established, or are blockaded (South Africa, Rhodesia), but equally as UK trade globalises...

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    XD I think with the UK not withdrawing from East of Suez in quite such a chaotic hurry, I think there's a chance for the UK to try and keep Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei in closer relations. I still think Singapore will be booted out of Malaysia as per OTL, but maybe some kind of mini EEC or...

  16. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]
    Threadmarks: Chapter 4: Douglas-Home

    Alec Douglas-Home Conservative Premiership, 1968-1973, won election 1968 Douglas-Home & Nixon relations were largely defined as "Friends can disagree with each other". Douglas-Home, the accidental Prime Minister as some have labelled him, came to power as a compromise between candidates for...

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    It's perhaps an ever so slightly tighter Commonwealth, but I don't think it's massively different. I don't think the core CANZUKAUS group of 4 were really dented by Suez; I think the only real impact of Suez was the UK image of itself, and the UK image in the Arab countries. The latter will...

  18. TL: UK Overseas Regions [Redux]

    I did start tapping out a reply, but suffice to say I respectfully disagree with many of your assertions regarding race politics in the UK. However, I don't want to start a) a current politics discussion in here and risk it being locked, and b) get sidetracked in to a racism debate. What I will...

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    Quite possibly. It's an area which isn't quite fleshed out entirely yet! I think there is still a scope for British manufacturing in civil aviation; it's not going to be as big as Airbus, but the potential for a continued British manufacturer is definitely on the cards. XD To be fair, I...

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    Different universe. As you say, sometimes I ponder how the rail/tube will evolve here, and inevitably there'll probably end up being a chapter, but I'll try and mostly keep trains out of this TL :) Can't see Rhodesia being massively different, UDI or not. The white minority does not want to...
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