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  1. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    Only if you fundamentally rewrite the loaded concepts married to it. So an early Republican period is probably a good way to do it.

  2. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    Not necessarily, prior fragmentation periods never seriously threatened the idea of China with the exception of the Wu Hu rebellions, but after a century the idea of China was irremovable. Fragmentation periods will not damage the idea of China, and instead the people will long for the day that...

  3. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    You misunderstand, I am not talking about breaking China into different nations, but breaking China into different Chinas. It is not a matter of whether or not each of those states wants and pursues unification, but whether or not the others can stop them, creating a stalemate of sorts. The...

  4. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    While I have no doubt that it could collapse in a generation, I wouldn't argue that it has to. Breaking China would require massive demographic losses, and a militarization of what's left. Any sufficiently war torn China with capable leadership that is operating under semi-pragmatic conditions...

  5. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    That really depends. They are all going to be Buddhist, with exceptionally strong undercurrents of Confucianism which will remain the ruling philosophical paradigm. The Grays are no exception to this, as they are, by now, heavily Sinitic. A good route to go with would be to have the Gray one be...

  6. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    I'm not thrilled with the Gray one's borders, but yeah, its good enough for a semi-stable China that could last long enough for the West to start picking sides and maintaining a pseudo-balance of power. You can produce horses everywhere in China except the deepest parts of the South, but the...

  7. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    The Yangze/Chang Jiang is absolutely important to the security of the southern states. Not only does Red have some of the river, compromising their defenses, they have Nanjing - one of the greatest powerhouses on the river. Shanghai was not really all that important at this time, the true center...

  8. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    The borders aren't quite right, but yes - that will work much better. Now you just need to make circumstances keep them separate.

  9. Five Good Emperors Overrated?

    In Rome, there was no difference between a genetic child and an adopted child. Or the difference was so small, that it made no matter in law or culture. It was typically done for maternal relatives, or sororal relatives. Octavian was a nephew by way of Julius's family's female line, and while...

  10. Effects on Mexico if the US annexes more of northern Mexico?

    There's fair chance that monarchism, once in Mexico, will not leave it again without US troops on the ground assuming the north becomes part of the US.

  11. Five Good Emperors Overrated?

    On a whole? Yes, but the silver age of Rome was on a whole the twilight of what Rome could be. Afterwards, it will descend into an increasingly militant and authoritarian society that will give birth to absolutism in the form of the Dominate.

  12. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    There is no middle class. While imperfect, the confucian class model is an apt one for describing China. There is the gentry, the artisans, the farmers, and the traders. The Mercantile class is usually looked down upon, while maintaining a high degree of influence and some degree of...

  13. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    The Dynastic names would remain. Dali wasn't something exotic, it just meant the Great Li Dynasty. There's no national identity outside of being Chinese, but their loyalty is intently focused upon the Emperor and his family. If you want a national identity, it will emerge from that loyalty...

  14. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    That's not as true as you might think. There are three main gateways into China to use old province names: Liang/Qin, Bing/Zhao, and You/Yan. Three smaller states centered around those provinces could easily prevent large scale Nomadic invasion. China tended to have the most problems with the...

  15. Alexander the Great Alt History

    Someone will just throw a tile at him at some point.

  16. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    A way to do what you want is to break Northern China into two pieces, and shatter the South. While a three state system has proven to be stable in the short term, and a two state system can be stable in the long term, both tend for eventual unification. Recreate the Warring States, and you have...

  17. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    Gloss, it is possible to break China apart into different Chinas, but at this point it is going to be exceedingly difficult for you to break China into different nations. Tibet and the Steppe, sure. Yunnan? Maybe. More? Unlikely. To make an analogy that is illustrative, yet deeply flawed...

  18. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    If Korea was part of China, it wouldn't have. Korea had more or less been independent of China's direct control since the Jin Dynasty, and had towards this period started to glorify its existence as the best imitation of China that existed on the planet with a unique relationship to the Son of...

  19. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    A chart of demographics from a book for China...

  20. AHC: Permanently Balkanized China post Yuan

    It goes two fold. During the first Han Dynasty civil war, the southern portion of China was too lightly populated to be a viable contender for the throne. While the fighting was being determined up north, they were influential players. Once the matter was settled in the north, theirs was sealed...
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