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Yeah but I wanted a defense against air support aircraft (Tempest, Sturmovik, etc) not a heavy bomber killer.

Just an idea based on Germany's E tank-family program: a flakpanzer based on the E100 hull. Slapped a twin-55mm Coelian turret and a twin-30mm Kubelblitz turret. I think I got the proportions more or less ok, but I might have to enlarge the Coelian turret.

Without going into french politics & budget of the 1930s... -radios radios radios; -at least a 2-man turret in both main tanks, the B1 and S35. 3-man would be ideal, but that would require a new tank design; -earlier mobilization for longer and increased training. considering the state of much...

I'm not sure Brasil has the industry & design bureaus to create armour from scratch that early. Most of their projects seem to start around that time, and they are for light armoured cars and such. Maybe an upgrade on the Shermans, fitting them with more modern guns; there were severall such...

It's a good idea! I was so fixated on "cars" I forgot the AMX13. You'd have to check turret rings, but you might be able to fit the 13's 105mm turret on the EBR I know, I ws looking for complete vehicles. But you did ask for "14-15 ton 8x8." The 10RC is only a ton heavier...

For the quasi-Panther: if they are on secondary areas, not meeting first grade enemies, maybe just upgrade the ammo? A modified breach might handle, say, a new sabbot round with improved propelant that raized it's speed. Add an improved fire control, and you have an upgrade that can be done...

Diferent turret.

Yeah. The french used 1-man turrets on the B1 and the S35, so I'm pretty sure the 2-man turret of the Stuart would receive the 47 without much problem.

I think the original turret might take the french 47mm without noticing?...

They did, but I have no idea how much ammo they carried. Can't have been much...

Technically, shouldn't be hard: remove turrets, alter a few things, cover up. But Israel made them because they are constantly involved in city fights, or in closed up areas, against opponents that carry ATGMs, IED, etc... hence such a need. The russians also built the BMPT, BMPV and BTR-T...

So: 1v2 trade delete waist gunners Pros: greater hitting/destructive power of the HE 20mm rounds, greater efective range of the 20mm HE round. (more?) Cons: lower rate of fire. (more?) And there's still the problem of volume. We can save weight on having fewer guns and no waist guns/gunners...

There are no accidents in the Motherland, only sabotage! :winkytongue:

Forget waist gunners. Can you imagine the mount required to handle the recoil of the 20mm? It would be huge and heavy; the one for the .50 wasn't much diferent from an infantry tripod, and even that required a pretty solid stand bolted to the plane.

You also need a proper sight; can't waste ammo, every round is going to count.

Japanese bombers had a 20mm in the tail that was reputed to be dangerous; alied fighters had problems with it. So effect-wise I'm sure it would be good to have. But replacing all of the MGs?... In the EU theater, with a lot more engagment time, you'd need to carry lots of 20mm ammo. Even...

I think the OP might be refering to the "war" the USN wagged to retain a carrier-based strategic role, at least initially based on the massive (for it's time) Douglas Warrior and whatever might suceed them. But I don't see the USN trying to get heavy bombers (it had no history of usage) and...

By 1943-44, with the increased importance of the bomber force (ie, a group of aircraft whose mission was not direct army support), and the massive number of fighters doing nothing but bomber escort, the air component was efectively moving from army control, if not in theory at least in practice...

Well fml... completely forgot the M48A5 received the M60A3's engine...

But not on spare parts, starting with the engine...