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  1. Jutland rematch 1918

    Okay. Luzow. 24 heavy caliber hits. total KIA 121. Indefatigable, Invincible, Queen Mary 8-11 heavy caliber hits (at least four being 28cm) combined. ~3,000 KIA. Your three points 1. See my post above related to deck armor failure directly leading to the loss of two ships due to insufficent...
  2. Jutland rematch 1918

    What were there fatal flaws? Protection. I did discuss belts, lets discuss decks. HMS Indefatigable (1.5-2.5") was reduced to sinking condition after 2-3 hits by Von der Tann's 28cm (11") guns on her aft deck. She sank after 2 more 28cm hit, although evidence is that she explosion was caused...
  3. Could the US have successfully invaded the UK by 1910?

    Big difference between two decades and one decade. Even then the U.S. faces a race where they start out behind. The RN had a better than 2-1 advantage in pre-dreadnoughts and had an early 7-4 lead in modern BB. The RN advanced in firepower before the USN, adopting the 13.5" gun before the USN...
  4. Jutland rematch 1918

    Of course the N3 BB were designed to carry 18" guns.
  5. Could the US have successfully invaded the UK by 1910?

    Oh HELL no. I would say that the USN, at its absolute peak in July-August 1945 would have been hard pressed, and that is assuming the RN & RAF having been wiped out (and a fine day's work that would be). The only way to manage it would be same way the invasion of France was managed, but in...
  6. Jutland rematch 1918

    Actually the RN itself recognized the underlying weakness of their BC classes in the case of combat with peers, the answer was the Queen Elizabeth class BB, the first true "fast BB" and in the design of the never built G3 class. Fischer's concept was fatally flawed, however, as was/is commonly...
  7. Jutland, ten years earlier

    The first German Submarine of actual usable design, the SM-1 wasn't commissioned until December of 1906. It had one torpedo tube and carried a total of three C/03 45cm torpedoes. The next boat, of a much changed design, wasn't commissioned until 1908.
  8. AHC: Make WWII as bad as possible

    Well, here is one of his (secretly recorded) statements when hearing about Hiroshima: and another In other parts of the transcripts he and other physicists under British control discusses what it would have taken (500,000,000 pounds i.e. $2.5B and 180,000 workers, which were both in the...
  9. Jutland rematch 1918

    Not really. The idea of the BC was that it could out-gun anything it couldn't out-run and out-run anything it couldn't out-gun. Even after Jutland Fischer never lost his rather silly notion that a low armor, heavy gunned design had a place, in fact he doubled down on the notion with the Large...
  10. AHC: Make WWII as bad as possible

    Actually, Einstein had almost nothing to do with the Bomb once he signed the Einstein-Szilard letter to FDR. Not his area of expertise. He was theorist, not a physical experiment guy in any way. I honestly doubt that he could have developed a weapon. Keep in mind that no less a mind that Werner...
  11. Which election result surprised you more the way it occurred?

    Current politics. Can't be moved to Chat due to poll. Locked.
  12. Jutland rematch 1918

    Doubt about the BC concept, sure, there already was some serious questions (you can see that in the proposed G3 design, which were actually "fast battleships", and to a lesser degree in the "Admiral" class i.e. HMS Hood), although the chances of the BC all being refit to allow 30 degree...
  13. Jutland rematch 1918

    There is always the chance that the BC force commander gets mauled again, the ships had no business facing off with anything heavier than a pre-drednought/armored cruiser, although with the addition of all five of the QE class BB the chances of the HSF BC force getting away with a positive loss...
  14. AHC: Make WWII as bad as possible

    I think I did this.
  15. Jutland rematch 1918

    The 14"/45 Mark VIII on the KGV was not a good of a long range GUN as the U.S. 16"/45 MK 6 and was of similar quality to the 38 CM/45 that was mounted on the Bismarck class (thanks to the class' limited 30 degree elevation), but the RN ship was far better protected than her KM opponent. The KM...
  16. Jutland rematch 1918

    The redesign of the turrets and barbette to allow that sort of modification is anything but trivial. It would put a ship into the yard for the better part of a year. There are not enough yards to alter more than a few ships, even then the concept of plunging fire would need to be developed...
  17. Jutland rematch 1918

    That is one of the problems with these scenarios. The Germans only completed two BB, Bayern & Baden after 1914 and one BC, Hindenberg after 1915. The HSF effectively stopped dead in its tracks after Jutland. The HSF had a number of ships under construction (2 BB, 5 BC) but nothing that could...
  18. Trump runs as an independent, financed by himself

    Current politics. Locked.
  19. Clinton's Crash: The Fall of Slick Willy (A Collaborative Timeline)

    ...and with that, I hereby invoke current politics before the Flame War starts.
  20. The Anglo/American - Nazi War

    Never thought about it. I like the ring of it too, so I guess he stayed.
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