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A realistic Presidential list, beyond 1900, would contain no one that is recognizable. Any President from 1900 or 1910 on would be a fictional character.

And how, exactly, would he do that?

I still don't understand, you never answered. Is California part of the CSA in TTL? Because you have Patton, who was born in California, as the President of the CSA...

I already told you. The 2nd Civil War is about personal rights and governmental abuse of those rights. It is not about the economy, although the rebels would appreciate a tax cut here and there.

ConFed, do you have California in the CSA?? George Patton was born in San Gabriel, California...

First, you have way too many Democrats. From 1932 to 1981, it is almost entirely Democratic, with the exception of a four year period from 1957 to 1961. That's way too Democratic. There has never been, and it is unlikely that there ever will be, a period that long controlled by one party...

Initially, it's not about secession. It's about shrugging off some federal control. The motive is the loss of individual and states rights to the federal government. Too much perceived federal intervention in everyday life (economically and socially). The motivation is that the populace of the...

wkwillis, I don't understand exactly. What about my scenario is impossible? If they felt that their rights were being downtrodden, that the federal government no longer looked after their interests, I don't see why a rebellion like I have created couldn't occur...?

I don't necessarily want the rebellion to succeed. I just want it to last for about 6-8 months at least. In other words, I don't want President Bentsen to send one armored division, which fights one battle, ending the rebellion.

They will eventually attempt secession. I just doubt that they'd use nuclear weapons on the United States. After all, they wouldn't want to destroy whole American cities, especially when they're trying to swing public opinion to their side. But I guess they could use it as a bargaining chip. A...

I don't believe there'd be any chance of the rebels getting ahold of US missiles. The personnel of the bases which they're held at would destroy them before being captured. Even if they did manage to capture one, the rebels would never use it. Don't forget, they're Americans too. They don't want...

Interesting. But that still leaves the rebels with no allies, meaning that they'll soon collapse. I'm hoping to spark a rebellion which will last for (at least) eight months. The five states can't hold out alone for eight months, and with Canada interring rebels who enter their border, that can...

Okay. Now, I've got the rebellion started. Now, I need a background for the rebellion. But I have two problems: A) let's face it, this rebellion isn't going to last too long against American forces from the time, so I've got to degrade those forces at least slightly, and B) this rebellion isn't...

There are no major US Army Depots with the rebellious areas. There are however, the NG arsenals, about 100 of them, several large, air force bases, the mothball fleet in Puget Sound, and, IMHO, most importantly, Fort Lewis in Washington. The rebels are going to have to make a play for Ft. Lewis...

The Beginning Okay. Now, I think I'm leaning away from the Kennedy aspect of the Second Civil War. The timeline now has a POD (besides Latham, Rhodes, and Roberts living through the Vietnam War) of Vice President Bush having a heart attack in late October of 1988. The way I figure it, even that...

May 1989 - Operation ROLLING THUNDER 1st and 2nd Battalions of the 82nd Airborne Division are dropped just outside of Pretoria, South Africa. 1st Brigade seizes and destroys South African nuclear weapons while 2nd Brigade seizes and holds Wonderboom until such time as both Brigades coul be...

Some biographies... Here are some biographies*** up until 1993: (thanks to david3565 for some ideas) The American Handbook: “Kennedy, Edward” …Edward Kennedy, brother to the former President, almost ended his political career in a car accident in 1969. Luckily, however, although Kennedy...

Timeline? Wow, I think I need to condense all the ideas I've thrown out into a timeline of some sort or I'll never be able to keep it all straight. But, before I do, does anyone have any large suggestions or changes that I need to make to my overall idea??

I think it's definitely do-able. The Indians have not been treated so well by the federal government, as we all know, and with a few choice promises, I believe a smart politician could easily work out some sort of arrangement to, at least, keep the Indians neutral during the war. I think the...

My thoughts exactly. Remember, these men consider themselves to be ultra-Patriots, I doubt they'd accept more than token help from the Chinese and even implied, oral support would make them feel uncomfortable, IMHO.