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Marshall Plan came with strings attached that included certain property protections and the like that basically disqualified communist countries if they didn't retool their economies to be more capitalist.

this is now an American TL. tremble before the power of the US to hijack any thread i'm just joking

Either way, we've moved far off topic. If you want a thread about the dangers of an early industrialized China, you should make one. Not that I dislike the conversation, I just feel it's rude for us to clutter the thread.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain If Indiana is full syndie, then the state that literally did a syndicalist uprising OTL should be full syndie

I agree everything you said, but I think that the situation regarding international competition is a lot different in the second half of the 1800s than in the 20th century. Japan required concentration of capital by the government in the 1800s because there was so little capital in the first...

I agree that it isn't very likely, especially with the environmental aspects, but I do think that Qing China was already well-developed enough to start catching up to western powers economically. According to Living Standards in China between 1840 and 1912: a new estimation of Gross Domestic...

I completely(partially) agree with these assessments. I also think that if one were to make a TL where America and Britain go to war at a point after the Civil War, then you would have to increase tensions over time by a significant amount. Britain and America wouldn't just declare war on each...

I don't know, I think Turkeygate needs more attention. Someone call the Associated Press!

Those poor doctors, going through medical school and residency just to be literally enslaved by the communist monarchy.

Even if you give China a low-end first world GDP of $30,000 per capita in 2018, a China with no warlord period or Maoist rule has probably around 1.5 billion people with perhaps below-replacement population growth. That huge of a population gives China a GDP of $45 trillion. A large enough GDP...

People need to consider that a British blockade of America would hurt America more than an American occupation of Canada would hurt Britain. In a total war, the American economy would be far more impacted than the British one, though it would be very bad for both sides. The point at which...

As someone from the Pacific Northwest, having all of the PNW in one country is something I get really excited for. I love it when we have stuff like the State of Columbia or the Dominion of Oregon. It saddens me that my brothers and sisters in Vancouver and Victoria still languish under the yoke...

I'm assuming that Britain would orchestrate it, because I doubt an American administration would make the same mistake as 1812, but worse. Especially when the war is within living memory. Later wars could be organized by the US, most likely if Napoleon III wins against Prussia somehow, as...

How about we get fun with this? Let's say China. But not Song China or Ming, or even a Republic of China. Let's make a whole new dynasty. In the 1850s, Hong Xiquan dies of tuberculosis that he caught from a passerby in the street. No Taiping Rebellion. But the conditions that fueled such a...

This idea of a one-versus-one duel between nations is absurd. What would need to happen is for Britain to somehow isolate America diplomatically, then get America to attack it. And all without triggering a massive build-up in the America military. This is beyond even Bismark. A more likely...

Egypt during Circassian Mamluk rule went through quite a precipitous decline and the population would not recover until the British occupation. It's actually a quite interesting story how Egypt was kept down for nearly five full centuries. Hopefully the destruction of Egypt isn't as thorough as...

No Banu Hilal is huge. I've pondered no Banu Hilal in North Africa as a POD before and considered it alone to be big enough to possibly preserve Al Andalus or at least keep North Africa up with Europe.

I'm mainly just hoping for a more interesting thing to happen with Greek/Rhomain/Turkish identity than OTL, but earlier.

National Populism is just extreme right-wing mass movements. I think Integralism fits perfectly.