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LOL so true. Ah if only she could have died and still be discredited. Actually the Tories were far more mild before Thatcher, maybe Heath's brand of Toryism could have made a comeback? Tory leadership might not be as f**ked as it was when the 90s roled round.

Well you used to see that term used in newspapers from WW2, so maybe the 50s or later was when it fell out of fashion? I think in term of exerting power extended to Edward VII, so maybe WW1 played a role in changing that during George V's reign? I guess seeing your Russian relatives executed...

What about the Crusader states in the Balkans and Mediterranean? Cyprus, Rhodes, the Duchy of Athens or even the Latin Empire? Granted they would probably become more Hellenised over time, but couldn't they plausibly survive longer. Dealing with the Ottomans would be the major barrier, but they...

Well it seems that so far the one thing we can all agree on is alcohol!

Why's the Abwehr not on this poll? I think their and Canaris' contribution to the Allies winning was crucial! In that case I'm voting for MI6 for the reasons people have already stated above. Soviet intelligence really came into its own after WW2 and against the other allies.

Its got to be Debs again. The fact he's in prison just makes it pre-ordained!

Wow, I think you were reading my mind! :eek: I was actually wondering the same thing and was going to post a thread similar to this today! What would British history look like with a Queen Jane? I don't think it would make much difference unless she was pregnant really. Mary would still be...

So what do we think? A later Communist/Syndicalist/other Socialist revolution in Russia if the Whites had won? Or Russia going the other way and becoming the Fascist state of European 20th century history? Something else happening? Sounds like a very interesting timeline, can you post a link...

That seems feasible with a few minor treaks. I mean, the Roman Empire underwent tons of civil wars and at the end of the day it ended up being reunited again. Then maybe a Western Roman Empire would be possible with an even later POD. I think Latin could be used as a universal language, or...

Sounds interesting, can you send me a link. Firstly, when does Brazil go communist? If the Reds lose the Russian Civil War and the Brazilian Revolution is later, how does communism and the Red Scare go without it?How does international communism adapt to Brazilian communism, and how is the...

Wow this thread has really gone off topic since I last checked it! :eek: The point of this thread isn't the strength of empires up their survival as large states. Only Russia counts as in the OTL as it was a large empire and it still exists today despite all the invasions, changes of dynasty...

Well, before the First Punic War yes. Rome built a navy based on the Carthaginian one to fight them at sea. The Arabs coming from the desert also had one of the most feared navies in history (just think of the Barbary Pirates). So its very possible that any change could be adopted over time, but...

Ok then, forgive my error. Then Marxism/Socialism without the USSR might be a better way to put it though I'm thinking more along the lines of what would be recognised as communist rather than socialist in the modern usage, where many democratic parties have large socialist parties like Britain...

So I've been thinking, the history of Communism in the 20th century has been very much tied to that of Russia. So lets assume that the Russian Empire doesn't go communist for whatever reason, and then dominate international communism. Would another major country have become the first communist...

Yes Iran meets the other criteria but its too small in population and territory OTL, so if you found a POD to include a far larger area for Iran's core territory than is currently recognised you can fit all the criteria. Maybe if Shia Islam is slightly more successful and the Shah rules a large...

I remember reading an alternate history a while back that speculated that had the Roman Empire lasted longer it could have evolved into an empire like China, which may suffer invasions and changes of dynasty but is recognised as one entity historically. My challenge for you is, with any POD...

That is quite possible the worst advice I've ever heard. Wilson has a quite dedicated hate group on these forums and for good reason.

Well Italy as an ally was important for Germany's Anschluss, so an Italy not allied to Nazi Germany would throw a major wrench in German expansionism if Hitler did manage to use his powers to escape the butterflies. :rolleyes: Mussolini was also a major inspiration for lots of fascist...

And mine. I think the elections will get more interesting next time with no TR for all the fanboys to vote for.

Yeah Italy could have developed as two states, and Etruscan state and a Greek state. Anyone want to speculate on how the history and Celtic Europe and the Germanic tribes, Slavs Balts and others to the east may have developed? I think Britain and Gaul may have eventually unified to a degree...