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Rogue called Carter DLC, I had just referred to him as "easily scapegoated Moderate exhibit A" so to speak; and ever since I arrived at these boards everyone acts like Rogue is an expert on center-right to right politicos, soooo... And I would hardly lump Bobby Kennedy with Bill Clinton...

Carter was the first DLC pick, and he was sure successful :rolleyes: Clinton actually did the work and got in by winning support, not through a reactionary counter-revolt within the party.

You have to remember, Mr.Roastbeef, that the electorate never chose nor trended to the New Democrats, it was as much as internal party coup as the New Left. So it's not an inevitability at all. Speaking of which, had he been elected McGovern would have probably fared about as well as Carter -...

Hearsay wise, I hear a successful (I think in terms of holding the regions they are active, not staging a successful revolution) guerrilla campaign requires 3% of the population fighting the government and an additional 10% supporting them.

The 1921 Kronstadt Rising results in neither successful Bolshevik suppression nor a Tsarist takeover of that area, but instead results in a peasant communist Baltic Maritime Republic.

Long is at the nexus of Christian Nationalists and Progressives, not to mention the succession to to the Populist Wing of the Democratic Party, choosing a particular brand identity beyond Spread Our Wealth could be tricky.

Papal colony in China.

British Lemuria (Madagascar) of course.

How this works is you "identify" (come up with a paragraph or two of alternate history explaining the nation of) the poster before you's flag and then post the one you made yourself so the next poster can do the same. Sound fun? Starting Flag:

If the Republicans go Rockefeller or remain a party with conservative, liberal, and moderate wings in the 60's who are some liberal Republican possibilities? And on that line of thought, cutting out the usual post-60's realignment reactionary DLC types, some old school conservative Democrats -...

So revisionist history in order to assist in present day radical right wing agendas is still in vogue, I guess. Stay classy Cicero. Meanwhile in actual history, establishment liberals and conservatives from Churchill to FDR were taken in with the Italians at first - which fits into the Right...

Is this popular base map with the internal divisions of the larger countries one of the maps on the main map resource site linked on the wiki, or is it from somewhere else?

If every single right wing faction hadn't united to destroy them, maybe they would be. Prevent the formation of the republic, let the Alphonsines and the Carlists duke it out while Workers Catalan quietly secedes...

Al Smith's American Liberty League wouldn't be able to get along with Father Coughlin's Christian Front, despite them both being Catholic, because Al Smith isn't anti-semitic as far as I know and he's anti-populistic. Wall Street fatcats backing the Liberty League's trying to turn the American...

Wow. That is one excellent emblem.

Like this?

I thought it needed some sort of device to soften it up.

[see post on next page] Don't really know what this is, just playing with custom colors and liked the black and tan combination.

The "independent" character of the US hasn't prevented close brushes with dictatorship and totalitarianism in the past; though ironically a democratic and libertarian cooperative system might be harder to institute than that - but at that point it's not the "independent spirit" or wise "distrust...

Let him get out of office before the Soviets' first big betrayal of UN principles (Korean War) and he'll be golden.