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No Greek-Turkish war? No proper "possible war" Thread without these two Nations! Greece vs. Turkey in 1955 Greece vs. Turkey in 1963 Greece vs. Turkey in 1974 Greece vs. Turkey in 1995 What can I say, we love to hate each other! (BTW I am just kidding, there is no reason I can conceive...

Couldn't have put it better! Love your writing, without all the onesided crap! Love the South East Asia angle, and I am very much intrigued about the impact of this expansion in Europe! The Ottoman Empire is turning from an Empire of Conquest to a trade empire, effectively messing up the game of...

@Hamburger and everyone who has an Idea 1.)How long do you think that Portugal can finance and support an all out Colonial War in Africa? Population figures suggest that Portugal would have to pay for a large mercenary land and sea force, and I believe that it would become too much...

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:confused: I was actually quoting the conspiracy newsletter and their math, not the wiki article. The numbers from the newsletter are used in the wiki!! Why because the newsletter is older than wikipedia. First got it as a fax pamphlet 1998! And I also would like to point out that I dont think...

Well I am not an Chemist either, but the Osmium article uses information used in a fraudulent political newsletter. One of the many claims of this e*mail is that Turkey has the largest known Osmium reserves. It coninues stating that with a price of $25 000 per GRAM the turkish reserves of 127...

Wikipedia and the End of 'real History'!!! Wiki has lost all of its initial credibility, at least for me. The exagerations and wrong articles in general are souring the pie of knowledge. To me a wiki report is as believable as any other pub gossip. best wishes PS: As and ezample check out the...

Good Idea, the Janissary Revolution! One example you could use as a blueprint would be the Mameluk Empire in Egypt. The Mameluks were Slavesoldiers who took over the rule of the country. And as far as I can say the ruled the country quite effectively compared to their middle-eastern...

True, True, but my problem is the motivation behind such an attack. I would have thought that the Ottomans would be rather busy reforming and strengthening their lands. I would imagine that there would have to be some cleaning up to do in the empire (Arabia for example?). Establishing a new...

Well you have a point, but the proble is that without France in the picture a blockade become rather useless! Isnt there also the possibility of Germany focusing its war effort on Britain? Lets say building more U-Boats? Consider this-- France surrenders, Germany orders a partial...

Hello, here are some questions I have, about points of history not beeing discussed or left out. Why does anyone think that France would be unable to repay the Germans? The Germans Paid 157 Bili Goldmarks to the allies after the war, and the French ,to ensure payment, held the region of...

Hello Folks, I havent been writing or reading in this forum for a while, but this subject is just too interesting!! Why dear friend? I would think that the Oil in the Empire would be enough for a while, especially if you put the Oil from Baku and Ploesti into the equation. One other point...

There are two POD options: 1.) The ottoman fort is overrun, and the Russian forces can capture Istanbul. Without the European power having ennough time to diplomatically intervene. Leading to an allianated Germany and KuK. 2.) Osman Pasha successfully organizes a counter...

1.) 1389 Serbs loose against Turks 2.) Battle of Mohaç (Hunarians loose against Turks OL) 3.) Conquest of Budapest by Turks 4.) The two sieges of Vienna 5.) Siege of Belgrad 6.) Siege of Plevna 7.) Two seperate Balkan Wars 8.) Crown Prince of Austria killed in Serbia 9.) Yugoslavia...

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Savate Pankreas I dont believe that it is not fair to exclude wrestling and boxing, since whing chun (?) is considered a form of boxing, so are many grappling arts from asia(which in turn could be called wrestling). Wrestling and Boxing are european martial arts, there are so many local...

The capture of the sultan during a campaign would lead to the sudden halt and immediate withdrawel of the armies. Furthermore the Serail would, at once, name the new Sultan. The turks had learned from the capture of their sultan by the mongols earlier on. The captured Sultan would become a...

The Ottomans were stopped twice during a rush on Rome. Once the Sultan (Fatih Sultan Mehmet) was poisoned, and the second time they failed to capture Vienna. When discussing an ottoman attempt to conquer Rome, one should not forget about the disunity in Europe. Protestant Britain, Holland...

:eek: :eek: :eek: But what ifthe Austrians and the Russians have a bigger Army? And the negroid, no wait the mongoloid, russian breed a supersoldier and employ polish golems?:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Please consider this: A reformed Ottoman Empire becomes a major player in the Napoleonic wars! Which side would they pick? How would it effect the outcome? 1.) French-Ottoman assault on Russia 2.)British-Ottoman Campaign in Spain