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No - because the brits did bad things for dutch economy too, they do not started a war with them for it. the dutch want to be neutral, they tend to the germans (at last otl) and if the germans sink so many british ships, the dutch can make much more profit with other nations. so the damage...

hm, interesting answer. you can explain?

IF: maybe you read what you wrote and what i answered...?:rolleyes:

that is utterly wrong. germany need carriers to beat the brits. without carriers they have no chance to beat the brits - so no peace at all. it is silly to have a war if you cannot defeat your enemy, right?

Hehe, you try to optimize the idea? interesting... as described: you need an early plot (1920/21 is best), a non-nazi-government, a naval-airarm and admirals with a grand strategy. if you do this and help the germans, they can get 2-3 carriers similar to the yorktown class and 2 smaller...

you wrote about arrogance - in the moment you failed to read the thread. sorry, this make things quite problematic. you know nothing about this plot - as you shown earlier - and bring otl-events as "evidence" for the failure of this plot but you seem to forget a.) things can work bad for you...

Hm, it would be really good if you and all others read this thread before they post in it no nazis exist - so no nazi evilness can do the evil nazi things they did in otl. if you ask me if i like the idea of a crushed british empire against a non-nazi-germany (replace ww2 without nazis...

no - i call people who explain in a plot that is bad for uk why this never can happen because superduper-xy (fill in something you want) - britwankers. they totally miss the idea of alternate history. but you avoid to write something to your last post and my answer to it, why? ;)

Do you say this generally or just if the plot is something you dislike? in the moment the "critics" just say "cannot happen" or "the brits will do everything right so it cannot happen"... for me critics is to think about the plot and make it better. But the goal of the plot is destroying...

well - you was the one who thought to insult me... if you stop insulting others things are calmer. it is fact that you just did not read the whole plot of the threadstarter. otherwise you would not wrote the things you wrote. a military complex still can exist, also without the nazis. this...

fine - make a plot and have fun :D i like a greaterspain with no france, enlargened dutch empire (with belgium, northern france and parts of the bretange) and germany take some parts of central france nobody knows something about france... it was a nation punished for its evilness in 1815...

well, i disagree... i think the brits will build much more carriers - but to late for the strike. i think 3 ark-royal style extra (or illustrious-style) for starters, but with 6-10 enlargended yorktown-style-carriers, adopted for british (atlantic) weather. ready for service in 1942-43...

this could be one possibility... but the big question is: why should the threadstarter want an uk that sink the carrierstrikeforce 200miles outside the harbor of kiel? you get the point? you want the plan failing, he want the plan succseeding. Do what a ignored user did - make your own plot...

no - i said, if one read THIS Plot he could (or should) recognize that the nazis are not in power. so either you (and others) do not read the plot and are just trolling or they (and you) say that germans generally are nazis, even if the nazi-party, the nazi-laws and the people who leaded the...

That is wrong and quite unfair. no- it isn´t. If you read my comments to the thread my opinion is "it can be done - if some things come together 1.) the plot starts earlier - 1921/22 2.) the german navy realize that great britain is the arch enemy germany has to beat 3.) the german navy...

as usal you not even read the plot - or you would know that a.) no nazis exist in this plot - or you say germans are genetic nazis - if this is your wording i will inform the mods b.) the planes the germans develop are special developments for naval air war - that is something different to "take...

well - this is true and fals in the same moment true - any AH-Timeline has some wishes - say "better torpedos for the usn in 1941" or "wallies assault germany in autum 1939 to save poland" (to name two examples for allies-wishes here the plot-starter want to strike against scapa do you have...

:p finnland antigerman? how? finnland was part of russia in ww1 in the decribed scenario the russians try to invade sweden by land (a victorious baltic sea battle is asb - with 1916-ships) and "win" (or loose) the germans cannot take finnland - if they can they win the war. if they win the...

hehe, interesting - it is the best way to win the war - for germany first - the brits invade a true neutral nation (norway), maybe even sweden second - the royal navy will suffer in a way that no battle for jutland is needed. destroyers, subs, the HSF can ambush the british supply ships... that...

Hi, the point is - some posters belive the royal navy is invincible and make no mistakes. i suggest these people buy a history book and read some parts, like the fact that the brits needed way to long to make convoys - something that saved their butt in 1917/18... you are right, the americans...