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There was probably also some party fatigue as well as the GOP were in the Presidency for 8 years by 1976, whereas there wasn't when Reagan got re elected in 1984. Plus the recovery was more noticeable in 1984 than it was in 76. Hell, the economy was technically in recovery in 1992, yet 41 still...

I agree to, given how close Ford came to winning with the Pardon and Reagan's primary challenge around his neck. If anything, Reagan would be favored.

Agreed, and he likely governs more competently than Carter so his chances in 1980 are better to.

I don't think Kennedy wins the General, even if he does win the nomination. LBJ would do all he could to fuck Kennedy over in Texas and Wallace is still likely to be a factor that hurts Kennedy in the north. He does have a chance at 76 though.

OOC: How would Reagan be a compromise in this scenario? He's to the right of Rocky AND Nixon. If anything, if it were a brokered convention Nixon would be a compromise.

Probably loses to Edmund Muskie. If not him, given how close '68 was, HHH might be given another go.

Estes Kefauver is a possibility.

Ranking "The Losers" from Best to Worst: 1. Walter Mondale: 1981-1989 2. Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1974 3. John Kerry: 2001-2009 4. Bob Dole: 1993-2001 5. Michael Dukakis: 1989-1993 6. Edmund Muskie: 1974-1977 7. John McCain: 2009-2017 8. Gerald Ford: 1977-1981 9. Mitt Romney: 2017-2021 Note...

It's a toss up. In OTL, Dukakis was leading Bush by 17 points in the summer of 1988, and while this big of a lead was never going to last, it did show Bush was beatable, so if Hart runs an effective campaign, gives enough detail about his "new ideas," and responds quickly and effectively to the...

He blew a hole in the budget with his 2013 tax cuts, more so than Reagan ever did and to Reagan's credit he tried to stop the bleeding by reversing some of those cuts (unfortunately it was lower and middle income earners that were on the receiving end of the reversal), whereas Romney won't do...

How I'd rank the Presidents since 1981 from Best to Worst: 1. Mario Cuomo 2. Al Gore 3(tie). Barack Obama 3(tie). George Bush 5. John McCain 6. Ronald Reagan 7. Mitt Romney

A Kerry Wins in 2004 Scenario: 43. George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican): 2001-2005 Def. 2000: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic) [1] 44. John Kerry / John Edwards (Democratic): 2005-2009 Def. 2004: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican) [2] 45. George Allen / Tim Pawlenty...

Butterflies could make George Allen a plausible challenger to Kerry in 2008 as well.

Could Huckabee be the Republican nominee in TTL? I can see 2008 ITTL being more populist than OTL.

Nixon beats Humphrey, Symington, or Stevenson. Nixon vs. LBJ is a toss up.

I think McCain is the nominee and goes even more maverick with a Gore administration than he did OTL. If another Bush runs, it'll be Jeb and not George and with what we saw in 2016 OTL, I doubt Jeb will emerge as the nominee. Johnny Mac likely goes on to narrowly beat Gore in the general.

This. Though, if someone other than Dole or Quayle gets the Republican nomination, it could prove to be a disaster for the Duke.

Here's to the Losers: 37. Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic): 1969-1974* Def. 1968: Richard Nixon / Spiro Angew (Republican), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent) Def. 1972: Ronald Reagan / Jim Rhodes (Republican) 38. Edmund Muskie / Vacant (Democratic): 1974 38...

I agree Reagan would be more likely to go down to defeat than Rocky or some other Republican (Ford if he still were to run, Howard Baker, even Bob Dole) that said I don't think it would be a landslide loss, as I think even if peeved about Reagan as the nominee, Nixon would still likely go all...

It'll be Reagan vs. Rockefeller on the Republican side IMHO. Ford never had Presidential ambitions until he ascended to the Presidency and Connally is too damaged (a turncoat with scandal) and even a Watergateless Nixon isn't going to get him the nomination. Nixon begrudgingly backs Rocky in the...