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@Keenir I was originally thinking ruled by a monastic order, but if you had another similar idea, go ahead. :) @David Well now I feel stupid! :o You're right, Tibet was the largest ever monastic state.

In Africa, no difference from OTL. East Indies have yet to be affected, but they will be soon (a sort of trickle-effect, what with no Selim the Grim as Sultan). I'm not entirly sure how it will change, but it ought to... Yep. Old English is still spoken in England as of 1566 ITTL. :)...

The Germiyanids are descended from the Beys of Germiyan (centered around Kutahya). The Ottomans were basically an offshot od them, so I figured the Ottomans would be butterflied away... Mamlukes never happen? :confused: They were basically enfranchized slaves who hijacked Ayyubid Egypt. Then...

Viva la Revolucion Cartographico! :cool: Glad you like it! :cool: Although, this does raise a rather large question: How do Poland/Lithuania/Russia procede? Both Jaigellonian Poland and unification of Russia have been butterflied...

Self explanatory. It doesn't matter how long it lasts or when it comes about, but how can we get the largest possible monastic state? (IIRC, that honor goes to the Teutonic Knights IOTL)

Gray borders are internal divisions, black ones are international divisions.

These Hills Sing of Saxon Kings, 1566 AD.

Here it is. Europe, 1566 AD. Italy is slightly changed, those came from some TL additions (which I shall post soon-ish) El Mappo!

Yes, it has quieted down much. I'd almost call it a sort of "stable stagnation", but I know there's a better term for it... Correct, sir! And this will become apparent to you when you look at the map that I am about to post, the French king has a lot of manpower in his regions. So if I...

Decentralization, as in not much more centralized than when Richard Lionheart was king of England, sans Angevin power bloc. They have basically been involved with nothing since the 1390s. (Italian war ended 1382) Which, you’re right, really is a bit far-fetched. I may go back, tinker a...

@FENK Really? Most they've done is acquisition Holland/Zeeland/Flanders/Brabant via bloodlines. The rest has been conquered. Unless you're thinking along different lines... :confused: @Thande Peasant revolts? Oh, yeah those are bound to happen, and are bound to be just as successful...

@JP I didn't mean that my Bohemia-Poland only lasted eight years, I mean that it lasted a little over a hundred years, and in the last eight years it imploded. :o Thank you! Which would lead to sustained decentralization, yes. Fall in to infighting? Well when the...

That's also what I had in mind. And decentralized states generally don't do too well in the colonial game, if we might look upon OTL examples... An analogue to the Habsburgs? Very interesting. I suppose you're right. And that is beginning to happen ITTL, when the (French) Sicilian royals...

IIRC, the French really didn't mess with the HRE until they started mucking about in Italy. Which, as it turns out, they have ITTL! :eek: Change the way the HRE develops? I'm interested. Specifically in what way? Are you speaking in regards to wars, or butterflies?

This apparently well-researched source seems to agree. Sure, I'll go for it. It'll make continental politics quite interesting, especially once we get to the 1800s.

Yeah but was the Kingdom of France all that much like the HRE pre-HYW? It sounds an awful lot like it, but I just want to make sure before I go ahead...

@J.P Didn't even think you were reading! :eek: Don't mention it. :cool: And thanks, glad you're enjoying! :) And thanks for the links! Hey, like I asked Thande, do you have any ideas for France's development without a HYW? Personally my mind is drawing more or less a blank. Oh, and...

If you think I'm showing ALL of them, you're in for quite the surprise, mister! :eek: Who do you think I am, Justin? ;) No, I'm only going to show the major ones. Still, that's a good piece of R&D right there! :o Edit: Oh, and if you happen to have any opinion, how do you see France...

@Kieron Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. ;) I ought to have a map out today, guys. I'm really taking a stab at the HRE's subdivisions, and thus am taking a while with the research part of it...

One imagines that these alternate Saxon Kings might find some reason to target England's Jewish community, but it is unlikely to be on the scale of what Edward I did, so if the Jewish community in England isn't thriving, it certainly isn't doing all that bad.