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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Interesting, and I see that we actually agree in some areas. I saved your link in my favorites, and will finish reading later this week. So far I've only looked at Chapter 1.
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    Timeline 191 - The last citizens of the Confederate states of America Part 1 of 2

    It is his brother Billy Carter, who was kind of a minor celebrity while Jimmy Carter was president. He was sort of famous for getting drunk and causing trouble, but I was thinking that maybe he would have turned out differently if his brother Jimmy wasn't around.
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    Timeline 191 - The last citizens of the Confederate states of America Part 2 of 2

    START OF PART 2 The following is an excerpt from the television news program, News Vision, which originally aired at 8 pm on Sunday July 10, 1984, on the National Broadcast System television network. (The dayroom is an open-air atrium more than four stories tall, approximately sixty-five...
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    Timeline 191 - The last citizens of the Confederate states of America Part 1 of 2

    The following is an excerpt from the television news program, News Vision, which originally aired at 8 pm on Sunday July 10, 1984, on the National Broadcast System television network. Opening scene: A slim Caucasian male of approximately forty years of age sits in a poised manner upon a...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Do you have a link to your story, I'm not sure if I've read it or not, and I like to hear what others have to say about the 191 universe following In at the Death?
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Here is what I think a list of US presidents might look like following, In at the Death. Tuesday, November 7, 1944 - Dewey wins presidential election in surprise landslide over Socialist incumbent Charles W. La Follette, and Republican challenger, Harold Stassen. Tuesday, November 2, 1948...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    In the 191 universe, they use chemicals weapons on the battlefield all the time....? Anyway, I don't think that a mass-genocide of the defeated Confederacy would actually occur, but it might be something that is in on the table as US officials consider the fate of the CS during the first few...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Relax, Dude, its fiction. Nobody's right, and nobody's wrong.
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Maybe, maybe not. But here is something to take into consideration when thinking about the future within the 191 universe. The base of the Socialist Party seems to be rooted mainly in in older dense urban manufacturing centers such as Manhattan, Detroit, Youngstown, and so on. (In our timeline...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    But I'm talking about events occurring three decades after "In at the Death" during the 1970s. The Socialists lost the presidential election of 1944 after bungling the plebiscites of 1941, which led to the Second Great War, so what are the Socialists going to do in order to regain their...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    But what if the Socialist Party no longer exists, and are the Radical Liberals of the Confederacy really socialists themselves, or were they more libertarian. After all, what does socialism stand for?
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    But if that were the case, and only Southerners born after the official end of the occupation could become president, then that would essentially mean that Southerners are not "real" US citizens, and that they do not have true representation in the national government. Would such a situation be...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Towards the end of In at the Death it is mentioned that the US intends to reintegrate the defeated Confederacy back into the US, and that the Confederacy will never again exist as an independent nation. Imagine for a minute, that the US is successful in its attempts to reabsorb the defeated...
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    But what if a new aggressively expansionist regime should emerge somewhere else in the world? If not Marxism in Russia, then what about a revitalized Ottoman Empire driven by fundamentalist Islamic teachings? What if this revitalized Ottoman Empire attempted to introduce pan Islamic ideology...
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    I generally agree with your posting, but if the US has its hands full trying to manage the defeated Confederacy, then wouldn't Germany also have its hands full trying to govern the territories it has captured from Russia and Ukraine, and also deal with its defeated enemies, France and Great...
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    Non-parallelisms in TL 191

    I respectfully disagree.
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    But in our timeline Imperial Japan had to import oil, coal, tin, iron, copper, along with other resources from its overseas territories (along with slave laborers). Also, do Japanese commanders really have an endless supply of young men to feed into their war machine? Maybe, but probably not.
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    But, where are these newly independent colonies going to get their manufactured products from, including military hardware? Part of the problem with being a colony is that you have to send your raw materials back to the mother country in exchange for manufactured products, so with Britain gone...
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    I see your point, but I was thinking that by the end of In at the Death, that the nation of Japan has been in a state of continuous war since before the start of the First Great War, without the Japanese people seeing any real benefit to these continued military conquests carried out by the...
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    Pop-culture in TL-191

    Or, what about an episode of the 191 version of Star Trek (Star Patrol) in which the crew of the Federation star-ship USS Essex are taking part in an advanced weapons test, but the weapon malfunctions and unknown to the crew of the Essex, their ship is transported to alternate reality. In this...
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