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    Timeline 191 – Possible Postwar Intrigues, Scandals, and Conflicts?

    What sort of political scandals, intrigues, and conflicts might occur in the 191 version of America between the years 1944 and 1999? I think that answers to this question would more or less have to be divided into three possible categories: Category A: In this version of things a rump state...
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    Timeline 191 - Star Trek

    The following is an episode of the television program, Star Patrol, which originally aired at 9 pm on Friday February 16, 1968, on the National Broadcast System television network. Introduction scene: The voice of Starfleet Captain Johnathan T. Kirk is heard narrating the following...
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    Alternate History - Adolf Hitler?

    By most accounts Adolf Hitler's childhood was pretty dysfunctional, and probably contributed greatly to the type of person he became in his adult life. Also, a few years ago someone posed the question, "If you could travel back in time and strangle baby Hitler in his crib, would you do so?"…...
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    Timeline 191 - The last citizens of the Confederate states of America Part 2 of 2

    START OF PART 2 The following is an excerpt from the television news program, News Vision, which originally aired at 8 pm on Sunday July 10, 1984, on the National Broadcast System television network. (The dayroom is an open-air atrium more than four stories tall, approximately sixty-five...
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    Timeline 191 - The last citizens of the Confederate states of America Part 1 of 2

    The following is an excerpt from the television news program, News Vision, which originally aired at 8 pm on Sunday July 10, 1984, on the National Broadcast System television network. Opening scene: A slim Caucasian male of approximately forty years of age sits in a poised manner upon a...
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    Timeline 191 - Possibility of a Southerner becoming US President

    Towards the end of In at the Death it is mentioned that the US intends to reintegrate the defeated Confederacy back into the US, and that the Confederacy will never again exist as an independent nation. Imagine for a minute, that the US is successful in its attempts to reabsorb the defeated...
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    Timeline 191 - Would the US inherit the remains of the British Empire?

    Towards the end of "In at the Death" the English cities of London, Brighton, and Norwich are destroyed by superbombs, and whatever remains of the British government then sues for peace with Germany. However, what would have happened to Britain's overseas colonies, and where would the...
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    Timeline 191 - Final Act, Fall from Grace - The Flora Hamburger Story

    (Color film footage from the 1963 American Artists film titled: “Fall from Grace – The Flora Hamburger Story”. Flora Hamburger is played by Suzette Cabot. Bailiff Edward Young is played by Chuck Connors. Bailiff Joseph Mehserle is played by James Dean. Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Carl...
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    Possible Premises for Alternate History Stories.

    I think that the below scenarios might make an interesting setting for an alternate history story, but I don't know if they've already been used or not? 1. In 481 the rulers of the Kingdom of Soissons, (rump state of Rome) align themselves with the Franks, recaptured Italy from the Goths, and...
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    Timeline 191 - Act II, Fall from Grace – The Flora Hamburger Story

    (Color film footage from the 1963 American Artists film titled: “Fall from Grace – The Flora Hamburger Story”. Flora Hamburger is played by Suzette Cabot. Retired Police Sergeant Patrick O’Donnell is played by James Cagney State Prosecutor Adam Devito is played by Ernest Borgnine District...
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    Timeline 191 - Fall from Grace, The Flora Hamburger Story

    (Color film footage from the 1963 American Artists film titled: "Fall from Grace - The Flora Hamburger Story". Flora Hamburger is played by Suzette Cabot. Retired Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell is played by James Cagney State Prosecutor Adam Devito is played by Ernest Borgnine District Judge...
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    A Distopian Science Fiction Novel Which Now Can Be Regarded As Alternate History.

    Back in 1984, Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka coauthored a book together called "War Day". The book takes place in 1993 following a limited nuclear exchange between the US and USSR five years earlier in October of 1988. Without spoiling too much, the two main characters make their way...
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    Timeline 191 - Name of Confederate Battleship?

    I seem to recall a scene towards the end of In at the Death in which Sam Carsten was standing on the deck of a US ship in the Gulf of Mexico looking at a Confederate battleship which had not been completed in time to enter the Second Great War. (I think they were talking about turning it into...
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    Timeline 191 - Random Events Post Second Great War

    Wednesday, October 18, 1939 Lee Harvey Oswald is born in New Orleans, Louisiana, Confederate States of America. Friday, March 12, 1943 Amanda Davis is born on a CS transport train that is transferring black detainees from Camp Determination to Camp Humble. The train derails near Waco, Texas...
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    Is there A Definitive Source For 191 Military Hardware ?

    Can anyone tell me if there is a definitive reference source for military hardware from the 191 timeline? In particular I'm wondering if the 191 US developed a heavy four engine bomber comparable to the Boeing B-29 bomber from OTL, or were they limited to just two engine medium bombers similar...
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    Timeline 191 - Patman Addresses Joint Session of Texas Congress

    A Scene from the 1976 television miniseries, Texas an American story: Texas President Wright Patman is portrayed by Berry Hagman. Texas Vice President James Carlson is portrayed by Earl Boen. Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives Henry Grimes is portrayed by Gene Hackman. Patman's...
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    Timeline 191 - The Third Mexican Republic & the Repatriation of Sonora and Chihuahua

    Below is a partial episode from the Educational Broadcast Corporation television documentary series titled, A World on Fire, which originally aired in the spring of 1987. The below episode is narrated by Patrick Stewart, and the title of the episode is: The Third Mexican Republic and the...
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    Timeline 191 - Canadian Independence and the Alaskan Conflict

    Below is a partial episode from the Educational Broadcast Corporation television documentary series titled, A World on Fire, which originally aired in the spring of 1987. The below episode is narrated by Patrick Stewart. The below episode is titled: Canadian Independence and the Alaskan...
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    Timeline 191 - Texas President Patman arrives in Washington DC

    A Scene from the 1976 television miniseries, Texas an American story: Texas President Wright Patman is portrayed by Berry Hagman. US President Thomas Dewey is portrayed by Jack Nicholson. US Vice President Harry Truman is portrayed by Robert Loggia. Patman's female secretary, Susan Dalton, is...
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    Time 191 Texas President Patman Is Invited to the White House

    A Scene from the 1976 television miniseries, Texas an American story: Texas President Wright Patman is portrayed by Berry Hagman. US President Thomas Dewey is portrayed by Jack Nicholson. Patman's female secretary, Susan Dalton, is portrayed by Farrah Fawcett. US General Abner Dowling is...
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