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There is a couple of problems in this theory, however. First of all, if this/these disease(s) had indeed destroyed the first North American civilizations, it should have affected the mesoamericans as well. Secondly, there has been no record of a disease wiping an entire civilization off the map...

So, you're suggesting that the roots to technological advancement were destroyed by some kind of plague?

Okay, copper and obsidian it is. Now, if there were other large states besides Cahokia, which we don't have any kind of knowledge, it means all the records of their culture were either destroyed or lost. That also depends on how many of them had written language. Of course one reason might...

All right, time for another recap. So the possible reason for the nondevelopment of Native American societies was either underpriviledged circumstances or even sheer bad luck (if the probability theory holds water) or both. Maybe there weren't that much domesticable animals, but there were...

Neither did I say anything about wanting to create middle ages europe in North America. I'm just as willing to make this just as realistic as everyone else (that's why I put this thread here instead of ASB and other magic) and see if this was possible. I have also removed elements proven...

All right, time to retrace the steps. What I have gotten from your posts, following requirements must be met for 12th century technology to appear in North America Fish hooks Wheel Changes both in North and South Heavy cultural exchange I checked out the maps and the best place for the...

First of all thank you all for the ideas and notes, I'll put them to good use. Now I'll give one possible society in this TL, more precisely the one from the Great Plains: A some kind of raiding empire, similar to huns and mongols, originates from here. It consists of the Lakota, Hidatsa...

These are all very good points. And yes, I didn't want any ASBs to this TL either. Although Amerindians are in general less nomadic than in OTL; more cities and villages. Well, considering that castles and iron based armor is indeed not that likely, I came up with this: Snake soldier Snake...

Grey Wolf: Thanks for the contribution. Although I have a feeling that the ATL Cahokia (or whatever the city's real name is) is a more advanced society, at least iron instead of copper. Falecius: With Asia I was mostly referring to China and Japan, but I admit it, in general a merchant was higher

I have been thinking about this timeline for a while. Anyways, the idea is that during the arrival of the Europeans to the Americas, In the Northern part the Native Americans had established a society similar to the middle ages, with castles, advanced farming and other. Before anyone of you...

I doubt our history would change that much. After all there were other nazis before Hitler rose to power and the hatred towards ethnic minorities was common in germany after WW1, Hitler merely gave the face to the nazis. Most likely we would have had the rise of the nazi party with another man...

For me it begun when I first heard of Marvel comics What If? series. Though I have never actually read any of these (they don't sell them in my country), I have read plot spoilers. What I came to love in these stories was the idea of how everything would still work out, even if things didn't go...