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Had the Confederate States of America survived into present day, I wonder what the USSR's relations with them during the cold war with the USA have been like? Would the CSA have become a pro-Moscow regime - despite being almost it's ideological opposite?

The whole Georgia/Russia thing has worryingly reminded me of Threads, actually... :(

Posted this before, but perhaps Eric Blair in this ATL still goes on to be a novelist - but one employed by the Ministry of Truth to write sycophantic, pro-regime propaganda novels. Maybe he even writes a bestselling cautionary tale called "1984" - in which a tale of the chaotic horrors of a...

I have seen this film and, to be honest, I'm not sure there'd even be as much left as was depicted in the film after a real nuclear war. :(

Great stuff, Will Ritson.

Then there's Burma/Myanmar. Not quite a communist regime as such, but is allied to china and notionally follows an ideology of "The Burmese Way to Socialism" - although it has since veared away from most state-planning, collectivism and other traditional hallmarks of socialism.

I've always envisioned that statue of Big Brother in Trafalgar/Victory square as being in a Saddam-esque pose atop the pillar where Nelson's statue used to be. It's also interesting how - in spite of the Ingsoc Party's incessant rewriting of histrory - Oliver Cromwell would appear to be an...

Not sure about central London being empty - doesn't the novel make mention of a rail journey out of London Paddington station? I think the underground (tube/metro/subway etc depending on where you are) is mentioned at some stage as well. I get the feeling it's all still there, but much of the...

Will Ritson, I note on another thread you say you'll be adding some maps to this thread. Will you be doing any flags? I've often wondered what the Oceanian flag looks like ... ;)

No more of this, yet? Looking forward to it... :)

Nicu does sound remarkably similar to Saddam's son, Uday. Wonder if they ever met up for a night on the town? ;)

You're all forgetting Turkmenistan - surely the closest thing to a europen North Korea? It's only now starting to loosen up since the death of President Niyazov. Apart from that, probably Romania would have been a contender had Nicolai Ceasuescu not been overthrown - although he was a "Saddam...

I'm sure I once read somewhere that a leading Nazi at them time said that if Germany had had a FPTP system like Britain's or the USA's, they'd have taken every seat in the reichstag at the final elections before the one-party state was declared.

More interesting stuff there, Will Ritson. It's coming along nicely.

That's the great thing about 1984 - a lot of it's so uncertain and unclear about just what had happened that there's endless potential ATLs that we can have fun designing around it! ;)

This lends to the outside world not being as bad as the Party makes out. Perhaps the regime is able to import just suffient supplies from outside (from it's few supportive allies? Maybe places like North Korea or other "rogue states"?) to stave off total famine. Or maybe areas outside London are...

Even if Oceania is an oligarchy run by a cabal of top party bosses, there's still going to be someone who's "first among equals". Whoever that person is (it could be the chairman or secretary-general of the inner party central committee, for instance) amounts to being the de facto president of...

Returning to Wil Ritson's premise of the thread, though, here's another question... Noting your picture of the Oval Cricket Ground, I wonder if any video footage of scenes from inside Oceania during Ingsoc rule has ever been smuggled out to the outside world (rather like how similar footage...

True, I think we can agree that Britain under the Ingsoc party is a truly horrendous regime to live under.

There is the possibility, of course, that Goldstein's book was itself either a total piece of misinformation put out by the regime - or at least has been heavily re-written by it. Who knows what it's original contents, as written by Goldstein, may have been?