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if we're going to recast people what about someone other than keaton as batman. there were all sorts of crazy proposals around 1985. at one point they even mentioned charlie sheen as a possible name

was there a clinton-gore administration? actually i have a lot of questions, increasingly.

something like that. also i'm wondering about some other developments. like if there's an equivalent to hbo or some other channels.

depraved, degenerate or something like that basically sounds in character. he was born in 1921. he wasn't a gen xer or millennial. i think limbaugh helped popularize feminazi in the 90s at least though.

idk, maybe look at some of the things he said about mapplethorpe or lgbt for inspiration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Helms#Social_and_political_views

as to presidents probably nixon or some other conservative like george bender in 1968 and 1972. not so sure about 1976 or 1980. but it seems like things are fairly convergent. more so than i would have expected.

i would retcon what exactly helms said. motherfucker was seen as particularly "negro like" back then by the older generation. he can say something obscene maybe but i don't see a segregationist sympathizer saying such a thing even in private.

it's not like stuff like speed racer, voltron, macross/robotech, etc. didn't exist on american tv

some pop culture ideas: - if there is a batman tv show it will be cast differently. in our timeline the role of batman nearly went to lyle waggoner. but there are other possibilities besides him. - superman and batman get movies in the late 70s and 80s similar to otl. but different casting...

well there's a bunch of possible scenarios there. maybe goldwater declines to run. he was kind of dragged into it by activists in otl. or maybe other forces mobilize against him better and kind of split the vote. i don't really think rockefeller would be the nominee at that point though. too...

other random divergence... scranton or some favorite son like rhodes is the republican nominee in 1964. i mean i have mixed thoughts on goldwater. and i'm trying not to let my biases color this too much. but a lot about his candidacy always seemed like a longshot.

although right off the top of my head it sounds like there is never going to be an opening of relations with china. even if nixon is president in the 70s. which judging from how things have gone sounds like the case.

interesting that things are relatively convergent so far. and if you want to call it something else maybe "the party." i'll see what i can offer in a little bit. i have a few possible ideas.

i would be interested. feel free to pm

maybe a bunch of nato bloc countries are on war footing because of a large scale invasion in asia, like another korean war? and the socialist countries are more along the lines of china or vietnam in otl. or dirigism and state owned companies are more in vogue in this alternate timeline

martin luther king jr dies after being stabbed in 1958

princess diana falls down the stairs and dies in 1982 https://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/08/world/new-book-reports-5-suicide-attempts-by-princess-of-wales.html

Besides the examples listed... There was a comic book series from 1999 called Chassis that was set in a retro sci-fi type world where World War 2 never happened.

extremely hard to be honest. maybe volcker or miller pursues different policies under carter, too late to help him but enough to give reagan a chance? but that.. seems really kind of the "wank" end of things for my tastes. and probably leads to other butterflies...

i have a few. here's one that i was going to eventually do a timeline or something on... eventually.