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  1. Nassirisimo

    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Hello guys! Sorry about the relative quietness on my part. Unfortunately due to a combination of computer breakdowns and a lack of actually making backups I have lost pretty much everything related to the timeline such as updates, notes and books. Combined with the fact that I'm currently in...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: Vignette #2 - "Turning Turkish"

    Turning Turkish As far as first wars go, the War of ’77 was not a bad one to be in, as long as you were on the right side of course. There was the initial panic as the Russian advance columns stormed their way to the Balkan passes barely a few weeks after they’d crossed the Danube. Then there...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Broadly speaking even in most of the Arab provinces the Ottomans were certainly accepted as legitimate, if not quite enthusiastically supported due to the inherently localist outlook of many in the period. By this point in the 19th century there was a kind of patriotism emerging though. How Jews...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: Internal Affairs during the War of 1877

    Sultan Abdülhamid II The Internal Situation of the Ottoman Empire during the War of 1877 Internally the Ottoman Empire had been so weak at the beginning of the war, the impression amongst some observers was that one last push from the Russians “would bring the crumbling edifice down”. This was...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    "Kaizen" or the Japanese word for constant improvement is a word I try and live by in my timelines, but apparently not whatever the Japanese word is for actually finishing said timelines... Some pretty good guesses actually. The Ottomans don't actually hold much in the way of Russian territory...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: The Russo-Turkish War of 1877

    Henrique Felipe Salazar; The Conduct of War in Europe and Beyond, 1792 to 1912: Yale University Press The Russo-Turkish War of 1877 If the Franco-Prussian War had shown the inadequacy of static defence in fixed positions against an opponent capable of complex small-scale unit manoeuvres, then...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Someone let me know if you find the Hard Bass versions of some Mehter marches. Well that's good because we'll be seeing much more of Ibrahim/Abraham in the future. There was a lot that was done in the old TL that was there merely to be a reversal of what happened in regular history as...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: Vignette #1 - Journey to the East

    Ibrahim Osman, Zeynep Osman; Adventures in the East, A Memoir of a Naturalised Mohammedan: Palgrave Macmillan Brief notes on the papers of Ibrahim Osman Ibrahim Osman, around 1905 [1] Ibrahim Osman, my great-grandfather, is a man little remembered by history. In my own studies of...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Well to a certain extent, Egypt was lost by 1877 as an integral part of the Empire, but also it very much wasn't as a part of the Empire per-se. The Ottomans continued to receive a substantial tribute from the Khedive of Egypt (amounting to around a million Pounds Sterling most years), and a...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Depends what you mean by "get" Egypt. In regards to Pan-Islam, it'll be a different shade of it, at least in the sense that it is pushed by Abdülhamid. In the original Abdülhamid began promoting a muscular Pan-Islamic policy almost from the get-go which based on what I've read since, wasn't...
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    Overestimated historical states

    Interestingly enough the whole of the Seven Years War is something of a turning point as the greatly outmatched British and Prussians were successful on far more fronts than you would think. The British really beat the odds at Plassey to conquer the Bengal (without which the British wouldn't...
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    Overestimated historical states

    For what it's worth, there are some interesting statistic parallels between the Ottoman Empire and Brazil in 1914 at least. Both states had similar populations as well as GDPs, though Brazil had a slight edge in the former and the Ottomans in the latter. Brazil wasn't in a proverbial...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline

    Once again rather than continuing with an existing timeline, or trying a new idea for once, I have decided to revive a dead timeline. This time around at least it was a fairly popular one that has been inactive for nearly half a decade at any rate. Ever since stealing the idea from a...
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    With the Crescent Above Us 2.0: An Ottoman Timeline
    Threadmarks: The Crisis of the 1870s

    Fadıl Necmi; The Sublime Ottoman State: A History of the Ottoman Empire: Istanbul University Press The Crisis of the 1870s For all the wrong reasons it seemed, 1873 would be a turning point for the Ottoman Empire. It had been almost a half-century since the destruction of the Janissary Corps...
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    Overestimated historical states

    I think this is a very interesting point. The vast majority of non-European polities in the 19th century were unable to "Pull a Meiji" in the sense that they could emulate Japan's limited industrialisation and empire-building in the run up to the First World War. Few non-European states had the...
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    Poll: During which era did Austria/Austria-Hungary become impotent as a great power?

    It's hard to put an exact date on it, but I think there's a lot of argument for the period 1867-1901 being time period in which this happened. Although Austria-Hungary never became fully impotent and better command at the beginning of World War One could have prevented the embarrassing defeats...
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    A Destiny Realized: A Timeline of Afsharid Iran and Beyond

    Zipping in to just give a bit of and update on things. With Ramadan here and a number of other real life issues, work has been slower than I'd anticipated which is especially annoying as I was close to finishing the current cycle of updates. Besides this and said real life issues I have also...
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    Of Rajahs and Hornbills: A timeline of Brooke Sarawak

    Great to hear that you're on the mend! I'm sure I can speak for everyone else when I say we're looking forward to what's coming next.
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    Persio Ottoman alliance?

    The Iranians were far too weak by the latter half of the 19th century to play the kind of role that the Ottoman Empire did. Keep in mind that the Ottoman Empire had far outstripped Iran in pretty much every measurement by 1900, simply because the Iranian state had atrophied. The most powerful...
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    DBAHC: Prevent the decline of Prussia

    I'll just say it outright. I don't think it is possible, great as Frederick undoubtedly was, he hadn't managed to turn Prussia into a true great power, merely the first of the secondary powers. His conquests did not imbue the Prussian state with enough territory to hold its own as a great power...
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