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What you need is a state government dominated by Blacks which empowers a powerful Black militia unwilling to give any ground. Then, after a few thousand people die in constant minor battles, skirmishes, revenge killings etc, the white racists begin to move out into neighborhing states

One potential butterfly of a big Danish victory may be that there won't be proper crews for Bismarck and/or Tirpitz once they finish, as the two pre-dreadnaughts must surely have been used to train the crews of the new battleships.

So, show of hands, who thinks the Germans will beat off the Danes, and who thinks the Danes can close the distance and put some torpedoes into the German pre-dreadnaughts?

The Germans had ample spare infantry. They sent only 100k men OTL, against 38k Allies and 55k Norwegians. Let's be generous and give the Norwegians another 15k men they are able to mobilize in Narvik and Trondheim. Do you really believe that that can make a such difference?

OK, but why are you responding to that post of mine? I just toyed around a bit with the initial premise of the thread. Mind you, it's by no means a "optimize Weserubung" excersize I was going for, merely pointing out that Norway could have been taken even without the extra light warships built...

There's a more than decent chance that Germany descends into warlordism and civil war if such a coup happens.

The Germans had lots of infantry divisions lying around doing nothing after the fall of France, and even disbanded some of them iirc. Even assuming the British don't pull back, I see no reason why the Germans would wait for more than 3 months before reinforcing Norway (assuming it's even...

The Peder Skram was launched in 1908. The Niels Juel was completed in 1922 and modernized in '36. Of the 21 torpedo boats they had in total, the 10 I assigned them to this operation were built in 1913, 1917 and 1929-1933. Torpedoes on them and the Peder Skram were 457 mm, so about the same size...

As it happens, we had this exact situation occur, where a German bomber force of Stukas and other aircraft bombed ad strafed the Niels Juel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isefjord After 40 minutes of attacks, a near miss knocked out the electricity and fire control systems, leading to...

Cooperation with Vichy Syria was possible. Cyprus was virtually undefended. Iraq was liable to an anti-British coup at any moment. Shah of Iran was reasonably inclined to join Germany. Malta was vulnerable to a coup-de-main in the opening act. The DAK could have been sent immediately after the...

Everything I read seems to indicate that the Danes had received advanced warning, but sat on their asses doing little to nothing. I envisioned this as the Germans not anticipating the Danish reaction. The landings took place sometime shortly after 4 a.m., but the Schleswig-Holstein apparently...

That's a good question - the examples we have, of which I've read about, seems to indicate that on a small unit level, they were decently willing to fight, though by no means Japanese-level suicidal. Leadership let them down, and strategic decisions were a master class in failure.

This one is a really minor one compared to the others, but I guess it can be quite fun. This is the German Kriegsmarine OOB: For our purposes, we're going to be focusing on the first group, centered around the pre-dread Schlweswig-Holstein, and comprising 4 minesweepers (one of which was...

I think that, if the goal is to optimize the KM, there is no doubt that the OP is a rubbish idea.

Having skimmed through the thread, I saw there was serious discussion on whether Norway could be taken. Here's my 2 cents. This is the OOB for the KM; ships in bold are apparently not built ITTL: TL/DR: - One of the pre-dreads (either Schleswig-Holstein or Schlesien) will need to be used in...

off topic a bit, but how would you rate the consequences of this happening on August 29th, and Stalingrad basically falling in the following days/weeks?

Wasn't there an attempted German-backed coup?

Out-of-the-box thinking: Britain joins WW1, but on the side of the Germans.

At best, Romania is staying neutral. No way are the National Liberals going to war with France

Scrap the continental system, literally raze Vienna and Berlin to the ground, empower Hungarians, Czechs, Poles and Ukrainians to act as his buffer-states.