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It depends on ambitions of the victors, the Arab respond, the internal situations in the two khanates, in Caliphate, it's complicated. And the Turkic allies have an Arab infantry army against them in Anatolia. The martial qualities of the Arabs make this army a danger.

CHAPTER 36 KHAZARS REACH FIELD OF BATTLE Qagan Boyan winced when tegin (prince of the blood) Kandik touched his father’s shoulder. It seemed he just fell asleep a moment ago. But the sun was already over horizon. This time it was real Khazars, who came - 300 light horse archers. The Khazar...

Sure, thank you, I'll correct that. Actually I meant " a sham flight followed by unexpected turning around".

Good point, I changed the the color of the text. I hope, it's a little bit better for your eye balls. But, sorry, man, I cannot make the text black. When I started/continued the TL good six years ago, a lot of people made the text of TL other color. Old school...

CHAPTER 35 BATTLE, AVARS AGAINST ARABS (part 2) The Avar camp was fortified much better than the hill, actually it was a solid wooden fortress, the Slavic woodcutters had enough time for construction. When Bayan’s central troops neared it they found a few Arab marauders in there.They were...

CHAPTER 34 BATTLE, AVARS AGAINST ARABS (part 1) Before the very battle while the Arabs were finishing their preparations, Qagan Bayan personally went over his infantry battle lines on foot; surrounded by his courtiers, who were also walking, no horses seen around. He placed his tegins (princes...

CHAPTER 33 ARABS TRY TO FIGHT TWO KHAGANATES ONE AT A TIME From the very beginning it became clearly evident, that the Arabs would catch the Avar army first, before it would be able to reach the allied Khazar army. Because Avar disembarkation took place on the Asian part of Constantinople, and...

Well, if that's true, the snaffles might be used for horses pulling chariots (wagons). So it doesn't prove fact of riding on a back of a horse. Well, people hunted horses for tens of thousands years; human beings are extremely clever and incredibly enduring. Сhase hunting (like packs of wolves...

That's what the common sense tells you. But archaeology and all other sources say: - first chariots (wagons) - secondly riding on the back of a horse period.

Well, first of all horses were used for chariots and only in a millennium or so riding developed. You know, looking at that relief of early war wagons on the Standard of Ur, c. 2500 BCE, I cannot see any snaffles. But these war wagons were definitely used at war. My point is given some...

Never underestimate ability of "civilized folks" to butcher a neighbor and his family: St. Bartholomew's Day massacre Once I heard from the sources, that Tamerlane (pursuing his hobby of assembling hills of human sculls/heads), ordered each his soldier bring 5 human heads or a gold coin...

Killing in cold blood any human beings in any quantities (if ordered) was part of a job of any soldier on the planet of the period. Of course you might have some problems about killing one/some of "us" (persons, belonging to your ethnic/religious group, etc), there might have shown some...

Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks The Kievan Rus as an entity was created to make this trade easier, it lived for it. So, ye, I guess it was pretty much that deterministic.

I think it could be done early, with a lot of PoDs. Walter Pohl, therefore, begins his latest survey on this subject with the sentence: “A people that called itself Germanic possibly never existed.” This term may be applied, of course, to the language, and certainly the members of those...

If Constantinople is taken by Islam - you may paint some color Kievan Rus; they will adopt any religion, which is there; trade with this city is very important for them.

Yes, that's an update. CHAPTER 32 AVAR AND KHAZAR KHAGANATES ALLY AGAINST ARAB CALIPHATE. BEGINNING OF HOSTILITIES. Bayan the Great was a reliable partner and a friend to the Arabs during the time of their rapid expansion against his enemy, the Persian Empire; and he ripped some benefits...

I wanted to vote for option 1, because it might be fascinating. But this ATL will most definitely turn out to be a savage disgusting battle over the issue "Could the Mongols conquer Europe".

If you think that something doesn't make any sense - ask: "What exactly did you mean?". Or explain why you think it doesn't make any sense. "your nonsensical rambling"... - in real life using such words, you might accidentally get your nose broken in the middle of a dispute.

This is the first time on my forum life here when I am reporting someone. That is what I call unacceptable. And in my humble opinion that deserves a good kick (at least).

Yes, there is an opinion, that there was not any threat of the Mongol conquest of Europe; the Mongols just wanted to punish king Bela for sheltering fleeing Cumans. So if that was the case... if king Bela had been killed during Mohi, then everybody would have been happy: - The Mongols would...