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The only thing close to a Thule mythos in the CSA would be New Orleans and black voodoo. Don't see that going over too well. You could do it this way. CS/Freedomite forces uncover a burial site/hidden city of an ancient demigod, Baron Samedi, in Haiti/Cuba/Louisiana and try to harness said...

However it's in scenarios like this (and inevetability), that Katrina still happens. Without a war, we may become aware a bit earlier of our infrastructural problems in some places.

It's just odd to think of the 00's as a sort of faux-90s peacetime.

Part of Gore's problem is that he tried distancing himself from Clinton. I think that'll still happen, and Bush will still get in there. Bush's presidency will likely resemble what he wanted it to be before 9/11.

I finally found my copy of Bill Clinton's memoirs. It appears there were several plans to kill Bin Laden between 1998-2000, the most likely IMO were a CIA planned "snatch and grab", or using a cruise missile strike on him during a meeting. One incident that would make a great POD for this...

Like I said, 2001 before the attacks couldn't keep Bay at bay.

I think the suitable POD for this TL is sometime between November 1998 and January 1999. Clinton decides to use a cruise missile strike on Bin Laden in an area where he later backed down on doing it in OTL.

Socially, American culture is as tabloid, dumb, happy and laid back as it was in the 90s. However the advent of things like "<insert verb> of love" "My Fair Brady", and Jersey Shore hookup reality shows still happen. American Idol still around. The X-Files is still on TV, granted it probably...

Hmm, a Huey Long-like or George Wallace-like populist party. Doable I think.

Santiago Vidaurri, Napoleon III and Maxamilian would like a word with you!

Or...just let Nuevo Leon join them. Maxamilian may be running Mexico at this point.

Cleburne, had he lived, would have stayed in Arkansas. I think, he really didn't have political ambitions beyond Helena.

Nitpick! Forrest didn't found the Klan. 5 guys in a college frat in Pulaski, TN did. He was the first Grand Wizard, and later repudiated them. However, how Forrest's views on blacks changed in OTL is probably the only way it could have changed. The Pole Bearers Speech (Bottom of the...

As far as post-War heroes go. Lee, Bragg, Breckinridge, Jackson (possibly), Forrest, and maybe Hampton or Polk are going to be the big names in the public mind for the pro-Davis Democrats. Longstreet, Hardee, Cleburne (wonder how his friendship with Hindman would go), Johnston, and...

Reagan was a moderate in the sense that he was Anti-Secession but wasn't against certain centralizing things during the war for the CSA's survival. Breckinridge's running mate? I don't know, I'd have to dig on that.

Depending on the POD, whether this is an 1862 victory or 1864 victory. By 1867, if this is an 1862 victory, the CSA is still decentralized. But due to the War of Secession they now sit on a rapid industrialization that happened during the war, and the need for westward expansion. You have John...

Anti-Davis Whigs, and Anti-Davis Nationalists.

The *Whig party in the CSA is going to resemble Southern Whigs before the war. This will be the party of decentralization, but also of being pro-light industry, westward expansion, some modernization. Basically, a Confederate Whig party with not as many Know-Nothings in it. Add Patrick...

This may also be a good time to put together who is in this Anti-Davis Whig party. Alexander Stephens makes for biggest contender, as does James Longstreet. What about Joseph E. Johnston?

Granted when the CS gets independence, Longstreet may go into politics around the same time as he did after the war IOTL. Kind of makes me wonder what kind of President he would be.