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free blacks and escaped slaves and especially Black American soldiers and fighters are likely to have a similar fate to Black Loyalist in the ARW. I can see when the Union is told to remove liberated blacks from the south a mass exodus as slaves trying to escape (including some that weren't...

The scale of the data is just too much to present in too summarized a fashion. I actually have been playing some of my statements off of some other posters who have provided data and links which is why some of my statements seem uncorroborated. If you need more data ok I will do my best...

I don't mean the slave population over all would be exterminated but what do they do with the tens of thousands of rebel slaves already on the lose? Many thousands masters are dead so they have no owners, some are armed and military trained, some are likely trying to free their families...

I as well as others have presented some insights into the nature of a post civil war CSA that make a lasting insurgency very likely. I also presented a post on how the post war South was suppressing black equality and ability for self defense by manipulating the laws to ensure blacks could be...

Not to mention the black insurgency and slave rebellions that are constantly popping up and sabotaging industry and property. Then the UK really supported countries that got continuing immigration out of the isles but judging from opinions here the South won't see too much immigration so...

Thank you LTG I see then, long lasting black insurgency it is for the South. This likely means many will simply flee north and west. Oh and with the South gone I see the US increasing investment and growth on the West coast with former slaves through out the Mid West to West. How long will...

A lot of questions: What would immigration be like after the war? I know the CSA would get heavy competition for immigrants from the USA. Post ARW the huge explosion in population every decade from massive immigration must have played a major part in paying war debts. How much open land...

This is really interesting in affects as this would place another independent but vulnerable Pacific power in play when the Japanese and Hawaiians start looking for alliances against colonizing powers if that isn't butterflied away. Which is a possibility. The Pacific alliance was pretty much...

Actually I wasn't just considering the US government fermenting a slave revolt. There seems to be a real lack of realization the slaves could revolt without direct foreign support from a foreign government. What I describe as one possibility is not that the US government sends weapons through...

Now what if the underground railroad becomes a smuggling route for cheap arms from the USA to enter the CSA and were sold to the slaves(who could afford them), free blacks, poor whites, and reactionary volunteers from the USA? Now what if the Slaves in the CSA revolt with intent to overtake...

#5 makes the most sense for why labor Unions in the South will start advocating for abolition. #4 Is part of the reason I think blacks and abolitionist in the USA will start smuggling arms into the CSA. Communist revolution is completely possible but so is other kinds of revolutions. Slavery...

The problems will start to arise in the 1890s when Germany starts trying to get deep into the Pacific. that is where US German relations got their hottest before the world wars. Germany wanted more colonies and started stepping on American toes. It nearly erupted in a war over the Samoas but...

With the South separate decisions like this one are butterflied or do not impact the US states: http://www.saf.org/lawreviews/tahmassebi1.html

Oh I understand butterfly effect really well and what I have said is that it is likely too late to butterfly the rise of Social Darwinism with the ATL CSA. I distinctly stated that even with an earlier arrival of the Boll Weevil it will take years for slavery to end. I am asking if you think...

Who said they were planning on buying it? Their plans for Mexico were from before the War destroyed the South. Obviously they couldn't invade it after the devastation the war caused. Maximilian would have to give it to them and that is not going to happen. BTW was this directed at me...

Actually it was a guerilla war they were losing, and with it occupied why would the USA turn over the Indian territory to the South? This TL only states the South becomes independent it doesn't state they get everything they want. A CSA victory requires the USA to stop fighting and make...

First there was no Oklahoma at this time but an indian territory which the Five Civilized Tribes agreed to be annexed to the CSA as a territory of the CSA, but not all tribes agreed as there were Union allied tribes as well. The Union formed the Indian Home Guard. Next by the 1864 POD the...

It seems many are arguing only from an Confederate white's perspective and influence and not considering what black Southerners are likely to go through. Many have already escaped and will not be going back and while the South is rebuilding many more will try to escape. The South's slave...

The devastation of the CSA makes me wonder if a deal would be made with the Spanish if a conflict between Spain and the USA did break out. Then with the massive number of slaves gone and labor injured would the South seek to get more like the British did through Indian labor or French Black...

Actually it is around this point that the US started really learning about ship building and lets not forget the development of the ironclads has happened and the US has the experience there. The annexation might still take to 1871 to be completed. The truth is I doubt the Confederates could...