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Oliver Twist was written in 1837 and first published in book form in several volumes but the mood/aesthetic of the future borrows mostly from gangster/heist movies. So it's kind of a mix of time periods.

Actually, steampunk isn't always set in the past. There are quite a few post-apocalyptic steampunk books (Mortal Engines is the first series I can think of) taking place the future. It's the future, but a steammpunk future.

Thanks, othyrsyde. :D

@rob: It's a kind of recreation. It's more of "a neighbourhood in the basic area of the Victorian-era "Five Points", with the same name and reputation as a rookery, but with different streets making up the Points intersection. The plot is inspired by "Oliver Twist" and the story is steampunk...

Found this: http://www.amazon.com/Five-Points-Nineteenth-Century-Neighborhood-Elections/dp/0684859955. Another poster gave their opinion, that Am I right that if this happened, it would mean: 1) a neighbourhood called Five Points could exist in that area of Manhattan sometime in the...

I was horrified by the first few posts in this thread-- but maybe it was partly my fault.

Thanks for the explanation. So what you're saying is that without an alternate historical explanation, Five Points would have different streets making up the intersection (probably the Mott Street-Park Row one mentioned) and look totally different?

Found the intersection on the map and thought the two streets around that intersection- Oliver Street and East Broadway could make up the last two points.

What're you referring to here? Post #19?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Actually I was referring to the idea of Five Points being rebuilt in the future as background to a science fiction story. :D

bump. Anyone have opinions?

Rebuilding Five Points... IIRC, getting off the topic of gentrification and back to Five Points: The premise of the story mentioned in the OP (set in the future) is that Five Points exists again because the area was redeveloped and the intersection was rebuilt. Is this even possible?

I'm talking about the New York neighbourhood.

Not knowing much about the kind of thing quoted, I will make this point: The one thing that I've noticed in reading up on this sort of stuff is that the slums that get cleared have their problems transferred to other places. Those other neighbourhoods then become slums (or just generally 'bad'...

Gentrification, though, has a negative side as well as a positive side. Usually, once an area gets gentrified, the original residents move out because they can no longer keep up with the rent or mortgage prices. Then the areas they move out to get a bad reputation too.

Exactly what I was saying. Anyhow, 'bad' neighbourhoods in the West this century are very different to 'bad' neighbourhoods anyplace else in the world in this century.

The movie Gangs Of New York (and the novel I'm 'writing' now) are both set in the Five Points neighbourhood in Manhattan, famous as a disease-ridden slum filled with organised crime. It was so bad there that the place was considered the world's worst slum (definitely worse than The Rocks, the...

bump. Does anyone know anything much about The Hassles, beyond "some band which Billy Joel was in before he was the Billy Joel we all know and love"?