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  1. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    he got Europe after Pearl Harbor, which is a far greater preventable disaster
  2. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    that should be 18 TBD and 16 SBD (the Scouting squadron). The VB squadron stayed at home so the fighters could fit.
  3. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    Regarding the fighters.. they didn't scatter. My reading of World War II fighter battles is one minute the sky is full of airplanes and shortly after its "where the hell did everyone go!" in effect the fighters engage, they fight but the circumstances of a furball prevent them from aiding...
  4. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    authors notes: KIng keeps his job as FDR wants someone he trusts in the a Pacific and its important that the CNO can play well with others... so Nimitz gets the job. Hart is kind of authors fiat, but I always felt he got screwed. Which is part why Nimitz gets CNO instead of King. I...
  5. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)
    Threadmarks: The US Navy at War October-December 1941

    Battle of the Atlantic October-December 1941 Nimitz, commanding Atlantic Fleet, is a persuasive and charismatic man, and has an easier time with Roosevelt and the Army than his predecessor King had. By October he has managed to trade the Army Air Force access to long range bombers immediately...
  6. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    authors notes: This isn't Pearl Harbor but the effect in a lot of ways is similar. Battleships are proven to be too vulnerable without fighter cover (yet again) as 5 major warships were sunk because of air attack (2 US, 3 German) and while the UBoats acheived 2 mission kills, they are going...
  7. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    those 5 inch /25s did fairly respectively against the torpedo bombers, but had a harder time with the dive bombers. The 3 inch guns were in suppliment to the 5/25 according to what I could divine from Pacific War online
  8. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    a local CAP was kept over the Carrier force and not all of the fighters were launched at once The Carrier fighters did not scatter and run, they were sinply overwhelmed and tied up so they could not carry out there mission. If I inferred that than assume poor clarification on my part...
  9. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)
    Threadmarks: Operation Chariot (finale )

    Afternoon November 13 In London, Berlin and Paris, commanders as well as Churchill and Hitler wait tensely for reports to come in. The first reports out of the Channel please none of them, as Churchill has to call Roosevelt on the phone and inform him of the death of Kimmel and the frightful...
  10. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    it should be noted that the sinking of the USS California is literally the first loss of a battleship to aircraft... other ships have suffered damage, but except for Taranto (which is a very notable exception but were ships helpless in port at anchor). The beief that a properly handled...
  11. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    3 of the battleships undergoing refit are getting their 1.1 in ch guns but the other battleships have not yet had that chance and indeed production of those guns is an issue. King is making sure his carriers and cruisers are getting them however. On the plus side, the 5 surviving battleships...
  12. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    model was based on German bombing accuracy at Crete... and German torpedo bombers on the Arctic convoys Here, 90 dive bombers total, scoring 25 hits on moving ships and 12 on a helpless one. Discounting the 30 that bombed the California, that is 60 bombers scoring roughly 45% hits, which is...
  13. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    authors notes: The German coastal guns can inflict damage but only until they are smothered by fire and 11 inch rounds are not going to inflict much crippling damage to a US Standard battleship. The Texas suffered hits and barely noticed Dive bombers, as mentioned above, did not kill...
  14. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    HE will do a lot of damage but will not penetrate the armored decks of the battleships. I cannot think of a single example in World War 2 where dive bombers sank a battleship. They wrecked a bunch of them, but never sank one. Torpedoes are the battle ship killers
  15. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)
    Threadmarks: Operation Chariot (part seven)

    Morning November 13 Force Z, the Channel Dash and the Raid on St Nazaire The various naval forces now face a new day and the weather is changing. A Cold Front has come down off the North Atlantic and is already clearing away clouds and dropping temperatures over Britain, northern France and the...
  16. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)
    Threadmarks: Operation Chariot (part six)

    Locations of various forces Nautical Twilight through Dawn November 13 (sorry if its hard to read but had to shrink the picture down to a size that would fit)
  17. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    also useful https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Operation_Cerberus-fr.svg/1200px-Operation_Cerberus-fr.svg.png
  18. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    authors note historical channel dash map... the times are actually reasonably correct for TTL at this point however unlike OTL, the Allies are well aware of the German presence and likely route now
  19. Remember the Texas! The United States in World War II (an alternate history)

    Bottom line, Kimmel was trying to catch the Germans in port and did not plan for them to sortie before he arrived. Note he did steam through the outer Scyllies, which is a bit ballsy. He planned on bottling the Germans up and killing them if they tried to escape. Neither side is happy at...
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