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All very correct but frankly if you are going to commit a quarter million troops on a single operation instead of committing them in penny packets then the obvious strategic target is Gallipoli. The Ottomans won't collapse if they lose Syria and Iraq, they'll just fight on from Anatolia. On the...

Sakarya river April 27th, 1921 (old calendar)/May 10th, 1921 (new calendar) A temporary lull had come to the fighting as the last Turkish units pulled behind the Sakarya and beat back any Greek units that tried to follow them over the river. The Greeks, themselves exhausted, having taken nearly...

Let's only note that the Metaxas plan was rather less grandiose than Kerr's 160,000 men and multiple landings. IMS the Metaxas plan called for three divisions with a blocking force at Bulair and the main landing at Suvla.

Of course the whole idea presupposes, that the allies land, advance all the way to the Taurus mountains and capture the passes there, in the face of at a minimum If the OTL Cilicia campaign in 1919-1921 is any indicator add to that guerilla attacks from the local Muslim population as well.

Hmm. Seems to me TTL EKKA is what the OTL AAA and the Tsigantes organization was intended to be, with the Venizelist left firmly part of it. Actually EDES should be only a branch of the main organization... well I suppose it becomes so in short order. This will have wide ranging consequences...

I will and copy myself from the past. George Maniakes is heavily wounded but not killed as in OTL and returns with his army to Italy. Thus in the late 1040s you have a rival Basileus in South Italy supposedly preparing to strike for Constantinople. By the time George recovers from his wounds he...

Can I have a POD specifically in 1043 instead? 😇

France plus Russia is effectively on par with the RN's two power standard. But then the German navy is very much a problem for Britain...

Thanks for the good words. As you say the British flat out refused BEFORE the election when they took mostly for granted that Venizelos would win. So even if Greece wins, Britain will still retain Cyprus, after all Venizelos won't be in a hurry over it concentrating on Asia Minor, first and...

If we take the published data of the 1914 Ottoman census at face value (an uhm questionable proposition) the whole area claimed by Greece in 1919, had a Muslim population of 1,354,472. How much of it was a diplomatic ploy and how much Venizelos actually hoped for is an interesting question. In...

Close to 5,000 fighters I think. Also 10,000 were exiled to eastern Anatolia. Now multiply by at least 5 between men of military age and the poulation they cam from... There is also some mention of Pomak bands fighting with the Greeks (from Osprey's Armies of the Greek-Turkish war) . In terms...

Bursa is the first Ottoman capital. It's going to stay part of Turkey no matter what, there is a reason Venizelos didn't bother with it or the whole sanjak even for negotiation. Two states... yes in theory maybe. But arguably that ship has already sailed in early 1921. The last Ottoman...

To the north the Artaki/Erdek peninsula was overwhelmingly Greek and Panormos/Bandirma had a sizeable Greek minority. Assuming a Greek victory, if the Greece is to get the Balikesir sanjak or part of it as they had demanded in the Paris peace conference and if they reach an accommodation with...

Funnily I have both books but had not gone down to systematically reading them. The table in the previous post is from "Λαοί και φυλές της Μικράς Ασίας" written in 1922 by Skalieri. Which is a think to utilize "carefully" for lack of other words. The man had counted every single Muslim group he...

Andrikotatos meens actually most manly. Not working IMO for a city name. Perhaps I should propose Demetrias on the Tigris :angel: Actually I think though the Greeks will just call it Nineveh, as the Assyrians are still doing.

Certainly quite less than what they occupy at the moment, or may be occupying at the end of the current offensive. But assuming an actual Greek victory the primary concerns would be getting a defensible border and minimizing the Turkish populations you get within the Greek zone, even while...

Most inconveniently, the Turkish official history on the battle is the ONLY one not online, unlike the ones for the periods right before and right after it. Granted I do not speak Turkish but can read maps and tables. Google translate is your friend. Now from what can be found online, Turkish...

They are pursuing decidedly not like OTL. In OTL the Greeks came close to encircling the Turkish army at Kutahya but ultimately failed to do so. On one hand this was due to Kemal ordering a timely retreat. On the other it was due to failures on the Greek side, the northern prong of the attack...

Western Anatolia, April 7th, 1921 (old calendar)/April 20th, 1921 (new calendar) If the Greeks were expecting something as easy as their advances during the previous summer they were in for a bitter disappointment. Turkish troops were far more numerous, better armed and had spent the winter...

While I agree with not holding Mesopotamia I must note two things. 1. This is 1640. A state spending 80% of its budget on the military or military related items... is the way things are. 2. No matter what may happen a generation or two down the line crushing Persian now, thoroughly still...