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  1. Alcsentre Calanice

    AHC: make sure the “clean Wehrmacht” myth non-existent, and have the Wehrmacht have as bad as a post war reputation as the SS

    I mean, some countries (West Germany *cough* *cough*) built their entire post-war identity around that myth, so it was certainly more widespread than some like to think.
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Well, it wouldn't have been problematic to hold a fair plebiscite then, or would it? That's the tragedy of the Alsatians...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    One thing that I learned from recent literature (and not from Wikipedia, for that matter) and which surprised me is that mass rapes of German women were not limited to the eastern front, although that's how they're remembered in Germany. Probably because of Nazi and Cold War propaganda, it's...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Thank you, didn't know about that. This would have been a perfect solution for Poland as well.
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    So I really need to ask you about your sources here. I've got to admit that I've most information about the war goals discussion from the German Wikipedia page on that subject, which however is pretty substantial and, most importantly, substantiated. Doesn't seem to be based on hot air. And they...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Of course it wasn't going to happen! But even a peace on the basis of the British pre-1918 proposals (France regaining Alsace-Lorraine, Germany losing all colonies but being allowed to unify with German Austria) would have been more acceptable for Germany and this more durable than Versailles.
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    - The Treaty of Paris. Although France lost the Rhineland and territories annexed in Italy, Germany and Spain, it conserved its historical borders of 1792, no military restrictions were imposed on her, AFAIK no reparations either. The objective was to restore the European balance of powers, not...
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    WI: the South did not secede in 1861

    So, basically, reverse secession, leading to a permanent division of the US into a slave-holding Union and a slave-free Confederacy (or something like the "Free States" or "Federation"). Ironic, isn't it?
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Border areas are complicated, but that's no excuse for transferring foreign territories from one country to another under the pretext of "national self-determination". Also, the situation often gets easier when you break up larger regions into smaller owns. After lower Silesia voted to remain...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Maybe if the AfD wins the next elections we could just fuel it with diesel... Well, without the Cold War Germany would have reunificied earlier, so it might have been better off in the short run... The 14 points were unacceptable to a German nation that still (felt that it) had a chance to...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Well, but at least they aren't powered by renewable energies, because that would be even harder to build for the German industry...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    I actually think that Germany got treated way more leniently after WWI. The treaty of Versailles was harsh and more or less a bad joke when compared to Wilson's lofty promises of a just peace, but IIRC Germany wasn't turned into a piece of ruble with millions of refugees after WWI, nor did it...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    And as of today, most of these limitations are imposed by Germany upon herself. There are quite some voices that call for Germany to take up a more important role in both Europe and the world, but Germans refrain from (openly) transposing their economic soft power into more substantial influence...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Certainly! But for decades, they weren't widely discussed in public, so it didn't amount to a national trauma.
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Honestly I'm not quite sure what exactly we're discussing now, so I don't know whether to agree or disagree 😂 Certainly not that strictly separated (there were overlapping figures like Ludendorff), and those more traditional nationalists prominent during and after WWI helped the Nazis come to...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    Well, while the traditional conservative and reactionary parties indeed did not fare well electorally against the NSDAP after 1930, a lot of there ideas were kept alive inside the National-Socialist movement, and the Nazisʼ racial theories were arguably the culmination point of the concept of...
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    It wasn't. Conservatives and nationalists decided to double down on it and that's what led to the rise of authoritariansm and eventually to WWII.
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    Did Germany suffer a bigger national trauma after World War 1 or 2?

    From my experience with old persons and written testimonials, 1918 reinforced German beliefs in their alleged historical mission and so-called traditional values, while 1945 marked the destruction of almost everything Germany had stood for since 1871 and, in many ways, a new beginning. It's not...
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    Were there any alternatives to Thatcher's vicious economic privatization?

    I mean, it's general knowledge that the Keynesian dogma that had prevailed since 1945 came under attack in the 1970s as it was increasingly unable to deliver its promises of stability, growth and low unemployment, but I've never read a good analysis of the deeper causes of the stagflation. Of...
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    What do you think the Confederacy did wrong?

    Once the French had taken Mexico City in 1863, the war developed into a small border engagement in the northern regions of Mexico. The populated areas of central Mexico, including the important harbor of Veracruz, were very much under the control of the Imperial government. What stopped...
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