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6.1 Middle East 1450-1500
Middle East 1450-1500
@HelloLegend: Ming and Qing are butterflied away ITTL. The Jurchen / Manchu may still play a role in the future (but I won't tell more
). Thanks for the tip about the Niohuru family. About the Jurchen empire conquering the Sung, I don't know - their empire looked strong, but had problems within either. And I don't expect them to survive the catastrophe of the Black Death.
Why I didn't kill Genghis off immediately? Don't know anymore, I had the idea some years ago... maybe because I wanted to write a death scene for him (see [post=533587]Stories[/post]), maybe because I could start the TL in 1200 by that way (I don't know much about medieval times, and I didn't want to waste too much time on it, and besides, 1200 is a nice number), maybe because it would be interesting to see what his sons would do... anyway.
And here's Middle East 1450-1500:
1450/51: After a short war with Egypt, where they demonstrate their military power (cannons, large standing army), the Seljuks make the former one a tributary. Now Persia is the only other major Muslim power left.
1453: Aragonese troops land in Calabria, win some battles in the beginning. When the main army of the Seljuks arrives, they're beaten back to Sicily, however. In 1455, the Seljuks land on Sicily, conquering it completely in 1456.
1459-61: Naples completely subjugated by Seljuks. Everyone fears that the Papal states will be attacked next. The helpless pope flees to Avignon. So does king Charles / Carlo V.
1466: The infamous Sacco di Roma happens. In the following years, the church loses a lot of power to the various state governments (whether monarchical, republican or something in between). Castille-Portugal sends troops to Italy to fight for the pope.
1472: After lots of fighting, the Seljuks keep Latium, calling themselves from now on "rulers of both Romes". Despite the fact that the sultan is disappointed how insignificant Rome has become. The eastern parts of the Papal states become the Duchy/Protectorate of the Marches, theoretically still under the pope, de facto under the duke of Alba (Castille). Although noone says it loud, the pope and the other church leaders are quite content in Avignon and don't care that much about Rome anymore.
1477: Johannite knights defeated, Rhodes becomes Seljuk. The Castillian-Portuguese king gives them new home in Granada.
1480-1492: Seljuks break Hungary up, leaving only Slovakia and the western third to the king. The center and Croatia are annexed, Transsylvania becomes a tributary.
1496: Cyprus conquered by Rum-Seljuks.
[post=644533]Read the stories of/by some refugees from the Seljuks...[/post]
And since I forgot it last time, here's:
15th century, rest of the world:
Since ~1400: Power of Mali Empire begins to crumble, its former vassals (like Songhay / Gao) gain more power.
1417: The sultan of Malindi (OTL Kenya) receives Chinese diplomats.
1430-50: After the Castillian conquest of Morocco, some Moroccans start to flee South, to Mauretania or even Timbuktu.
~1440: Coffee is drunk for the first time outside Ethiopia.
1465: Songhay takes Timbuktu.
1472: Mai (=ruler title) Ali Dunamami defeats his rivals and begins the consolidation of Kanem-Bornu. He builds a fortified capital at Ngazargamu, to the west of Lake Chad, the first permanent home a Sayfawa (=his dynasty) mai has enjoyed in a century.
~1500: Mai Ali Gaji is able to defeat the Bulala and retake Njimi, the former capital.
15th century: Kingdom of Benin (in OTL SW Nigeria) starts to flourish. They're approached by Europeans in 1488.
Great Zimbabwe starts to fall apart. The city is given up.
Solomonic dynasty of Ethiopia organizes the state into the provinces of Tigray (northern), Amhara (central) and Shewa (southern).
Loanga kingdom (OTL Republic of Congo) founded.
@HelloLegend: Ming and Qing are butterflied away ITTL. The Jurchen / Manchu may still play a role in the future (but I won't tell more
). Thanks for the tip about the Niohuru family. About the Jurchen empire conquering the Sung, I don't know - their empire looked strong, but had problems within either. And I don't expect them to survive the catastrophe of the Black Death.Why I didn't kill Genghis off immediately? Don't know anymore, I had the idea some years ago... maybe because I wanted to write a death scene for him (see [post=533587]Stories[/post]), maybe because I could start the TL in 1200 by that way (I don't know much about medieval times, and I didn't want to waste too much time on it, and besides, 1200 is a nice number), maybe because it would be interesting to see what his sons would do... anyway.
And here's Middle East 1450-1500:
1450/51: After a short war with Egypt, where they demonstrate their military power (cannons, large standing army), the Seljuks make the former one a tributary. Now Persia is the only other major Muslim power left.
1453: Aragonese troops land in Calabria, win some battles in the beginning. When the main army of the Seljuks arrives, they're beaten back to Sicily, however. In 1455, the Seljuks land on Sicily, conquering it completely in 1456.
1459-61: Naples completely subjugated by Seljuks. Everyone fears that the Papal states will be attacked next. The helpless pope flees to Avignon. So does king Charles / Carlo V.
1466: The infamous Sacco di Roma happens. In the following years, the church loses a lot of power to the various state governments (whether monarchical, republican or something in between). Castille-Portugal sends troops to Italy to fight for the pope.
1472: After lots of fighting, the Seljuks keep Latium, calling themselves from now on "rulers of both Romes". Despite the fact that the sultan is disappointed how insignificant Rome has become. The eastern parts of the Papal states become the Duchy/Protectorate of the Marches, theoretically still under the pope, de facto under the duke of Alba (Castille). Although noone says it loud, the pope and the other church leaders are quite content in Avignon and don't care that much about Rome anymore.
1477: Johannite knights defeated, Rhodes becomes Seljuk. The Castillian-Portuguese king gives them new home in Granada.
1480-1492: Seljuks break Hungary up, leaving only Slovakia and the western third to the king. The center and Croatia are annexed, Transsylvania becomes a tributary.
1496: Cyprus conquered by Rum-Seljuks.
[post=644533]Read the stories of/by some refugees from the Seljuks...[/post]
And since I forgot it last time, here's:
15th century, rest of the world:
Since ~1400: Power of Mali Empire begins to crumble, its former vassals (like Songhay / Gao) gain more power.
1417: The sultan of Malindi (OTL Kenya) receives Chinese diplomats.
1430-50: After the Castillian conquest of Morocco, some Moroccans start to flee South, to Mauretania or even Timbuktu.
~1440: Coffee is drunk for the first time outside Ethiopia.
1465: Songhay takes Timbuktu.
1472: Mai (=ruler title) Ali Dunamami defeats his rivals and begins the consolidation of Kanem-Bornu. He builds a fortified capital at Ngazargamu, to the west of Lake Chad, the first permanent home a Sayfawa (=his dynasty) mai has enjoyed in a century.
~1500: Mai Ali Gaji is able to defeat the Bulala and retake Njimi, the former capital.
15th century: Kingdom of Benin (in OTL SW Nigeria) starts to flourish. They're approached by Europeans in 1488.
Great Zimbabwe starts to fall apart. The city is given up.
Solomonic dynasty of Ethiopia organizes the state into the provinces of Tigray (northern), Amhara (central) and Shewa (southern).
Loanga kingdom (OTL Republic of Congo) founded.
- Max Sinister
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