Bruce.What word would that be?
Bruce.What word would that be?
It was part of New South Wales until 1840.What word would that be?
It was part of New South Wales until 1840.
What I'm trying to do is show the 4 countries (or their predecessors/ initial colony) at their earliest extent.Sorry to be pedantic, but your post never specified a year. All you said was that you ISOT'd Australia. New Zealand was never part of Australia - New South Wales was the initial Australian colony, but it wasn't Australia. Sending the colony of New South Wales at its greatest extent to a virgin earth is not the same as sending "Australia". In the early 19th/late 18th Century, 'Australia' referred to the continent, not the colonised parts, and New Zealand is not part of the Australian continent, either.
It's a particular pet peeve of mine when people decide toss New Zealand randomly into the Australian Federation without any thought to the actual reasons why New Zealand didn't join in the first place in real-world history.
There was a HRE Europe map and the (yet unfinished) British Worldraj that extended up to Ukraine from the British Isles.
I would definitely follow such a timeline. Also both copies of the UK being peninsula's might really mess with Ocean currents. Canada's vancouver island is also no longer an island and i wonder what the future of the new sea between Pacific Great britain and washington state high hold. I wonder if over time it might become less salty from massive rivers like the Columbia nad frazer draining into it... kinda like the baltic.On 24 June 2016, an ASB decides to precisely duplicate the British Isles, all the infrastructure etc... with the sole exception of the people, who aren't duplicated but are instead split between the two copies.
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I'm a bit tempted to try to make a timeline of this. I've never written a timeline before, but it feels like a fascinating idea to start off with.
Working out just what happens with a modern country when its population is suddenly cut in half (well, one immediate benefit is that the housing crisis is solved!)
Not to mention the cultural impact of a supernatural event... and the immediate problem of both copies of a formerly-island country now having land borders (remain-UK with France, and leave-UK with the USA and Canada). And also the internet and phone wires will have been cut off and so both copies of the British Isles will be kinda isolated from communication until new ones are laid... and also families, social groups, etc, are now suddenly split, a long way across the world from each other...
Yep. I think the biggest shift to ocean currents would be in the North Sea- the climate there will likely change substantially. I expect it'd get colder.I would definitely follow such a timeline. Also both copies of the UK being peninsula's might really mess with Ocean currents.
Agreed, this seems likely.Canada's vancouver island is also no longer an island and i wonder what the future of the new sea between Pacific Great britain and washington state high hold. I wonder if over time it might become less salty from massive rivers like the Columbia nad frazer draining into it... kinda like the baltic.
I just added up some rough numbers and: the average discharge for the Columbia is more than the sum average discharge of the 9 largest rivers into the baltic (rough math, wikipedia sources), and the Frazer has half that again plus other smaller rivers from the area. The surface area is much smaller and the outlet is narrower but I think its also deeper, the baltic has and average depth of 55M and that area is open ocean so I imagine it's way deeper than that. The straight from northern vancouver island to mainland be gets below 3km at its narrowest denmark is three straights between islands at something like 1.5km, 4.5km and 16km, again depth unknown for either.Agreed, this seems likely.
In fact, the outflow of this new sea (between Vancouver Island and the Canadian mainland) will be much narrower than the Oresund at the mouth of the Baltic... it wouldn't surprise me if the new sea eventually became near-freshwater.
There's also the Thames and the Humber flowing into this Columbia Sea.I just added up some rough numbers and: the average discharge for the Columbia is more than the sum average discharge of the 9 largest rivers into the baltic (rough math, wikipedia sources), and the Frazer has half that again plus other smaller rivers from the area. The surface area is much smaller and the outlet is narrower but I think its also deeper, the baltic has and average depth of 55M and that area is open ocean so I imagine it's way deeper than that. The straight from northern vancouver island to mainland be gets below 3km at its narrowest denmark is three straights between islands at something like 1.5km, 4.5km and 16km, again depth unknown for either.
In conclusion I would expect the new sea (needs a name?) (Columbia sea?) to eventually develop to become even fresher than the baltic but that might take centuries depending on volume.
Warning: adjacent to contemporary politics. I wish there was a current-politics map thread.
Not to mention the cultural impact of a supernatural event... and the immediate problem of both copies of a formerly-island country now having land borders (remain-UK with France, and leave-UK with the USA and Canada). And also the internet and phone wires will have been cut off and so both copies of the British Isles will be kinda isolated from communication until new ones are laid... and also families, social groups, etc, are now suddenly split, a long way across the world from each other...
Definitely tempted to explore this concept more, and maybe make a TL of it, when I'm in the right mood for it.
Warning: adjacent to contemporary politics. I wish there was a current-politics map thread.
I don't think such a thread would be impossible in Chat. Just talk to a mod (also about stickying it), and open it.
That and the major ports on the North Sea get screwed in the short term. The ships from Asia must make quite a detour. I think that cities like Rotterdam, Antwerp and Hamburg will push for a channel canal for the smaller regional transport.Yep. I think the biggest shift to ocean currents would be in the North Sea- the climate there will likely change substantially. I expect it'd get colder.
Hm. You raise a good point.No no. Whatever the source reason for a British Isles relocation, you can't plop Britain and Ireland in the Pacific. Aside from the freshwater issues mentioned above, it'll mess with the Oregon Coastline and the amazing surf there.
Where it would need to go is just south of Newfoundland. With Scotland's Outer Hebrides just sort of continuing into St Pierre and Miquelon.
This gives the added bonus of Dublin being extra close to Boston, and making the NFL's dream of a London expansion franchise super easy. And that team would definitely best fit in a division with either the Patriots or the NY Giants.
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