Us Against The World: How The Jewish Defense League Paved the Road to Socialism
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Comrade Izaac
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The phrases "Senator Kinky Friedman" and "Senator Matt Gonzalez" make me very happy.
Friedman seized the opportunity when incumbent Kay Bailey Hutchinson retired to run for Governor, while Gonzalez did some top level entryism to defeat Feinstein in the Democratic primary.
Shelia Wellstone considered running for Governor in 2002, though the death of her and Paul put an end to her political hopes. ITTL, Shelia defeats Klobuchar for the Senate.
manav95
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Is Tupac gonna rap parts of his campaign speeches? I know that might seem super corny and annoying, but it would be cool to have him do that since that's what made him famous in the first place. Or would he seek to broaden his base to include folks who absolutely hate rap and hip hop?
Comrade Izaac
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Tupac performs the entirety of ambitionz az a ridah on stage before launching into a triade about wealth inequality and police brutality.
Bookmark1995
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That has got to be one of the coolest things to say. If Wellstone ITTL became President, you'd have the first example of a President-Senator couple.
Wasn't Hillary inaugurated as Senator a few days before Bill left the Presidency?
Nazi Space Spy
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For three weeks Hillary held both titles; that’s actually pretty interesting. Never thought of that, actually.
Bookmark1995
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But with Paul in the Presidency, and Sheila in the Senate, you would have the dynamic of real political power couple.
Comrade Izaac
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@Oppo is this thread discontinued or is there just a brief hiatus?
(I'm not tryna to rush you btw. sorry if it comes off that way)
(I'm not tryna to rush you btw. sorry if it comes off that way)
Nah, I was in Europe over the past couple weeks. Probably should have got someone else to post the other updates but I’ll be back on schedule shortly.
Update IX
The Republicans amassed a largely disappointing primary field, with names like John H. Cox, Jim Gilmore, Duncan Hunter, Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback, and George Pataki. The four major candidates were as follows - former Governor Jeb Bush, Governor Clint Eastwood, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, and diplomat Alan Keyes (the latter of whom wasn’t really a serious candidate but had a strong following).
Bush was the son of a president, the brother of another, and the next in line to the Republican throne. Of course, his candidacy has been referred to as a Skakespherian tragicomedy, due to his pathetic performances in the debates and wishy-washy views. Bush III didn’t have the intellectualism of his father nor the Southern charm of his brother. Off from the start, Jeb failed to make himself clear where he stood on North’s impeachment, then tried to court favors with President Miller. Bush was too much of a status quo candidate who didn’t want to rock the boat and didn’t exactly fit the mood of the 2008 election. This was made even more shocking when the arch-conservative anti-establishment candidate was revealed.
Newt Gingrich‘s four chaotic and stubborn years as Speaker of the House seemed to have been forgotten, along with his two extramarital affairs it seemed. Gingrich was still a man puzzled that a telephone could order McDonald's or write bad works of alternate history. Gingrich was a man who could pull off adultery and convert to the evil Papist side while still leading amongst evangelicals. Then there was a man completely sure of himself - Governor Clint Eastwood. He had lived the rest of his life to great success, and surely his presidential campaign would be no exception. Eastwood’s anti-administration policies were all Republicans needed to salvage their political hopes and stop the socialist bogeyman.
This applied up and down the ballot - 2008 was the first presidential election where not only the presidential primaries were contested. Gingrich, President North’s strongest defender on the chat show circuit, endorsed several candidates challenging pro-impeachment representatives. Eastwood struck back, supporting his fellow small-l libertarians; and when that didn’t work out, he backed quite a few capital-l Libertarians. Bush wasn’t above the fight either; his donors also backed more conventional Republicans against the anti-establishment onslaught.
Downballot races were impacted by the Democratic side as well. Tupac Shakur’s candidacy inspired several people to announce their candidacies to move the party in a leftist direction. While the Shakur campaign lagged behind the Clinton campaign when it came to fundraising, they had the edge in numbers of volunteers and small-dollar donations. While Shakur likely had the most radical platform of any Democratic candidate for president, his platform resonated with a public who demanded a political revolution. While the campaigns of Gore and Clinton brought up past scandals surrounding Shakur’s criminal record and rap lyrics, the public largely seemed indifferent after receiving mountains of information. After all, it was 2007; why did it matter that Tupac was a member of the Communist Party?
Iowa’s unique blend of voters provided for an interesting result when voters went to the polls on January 3rd. On one hand, there was the traditional labor of the Democratic Party, coupled with the Republican’s Moral Majority. On the Democratic side, former Vice President Al Gore pulled off a narrow plurality over Shakur. This was good news for Gore’s campaign, which had lost morale and excitement after his spontaneous campaign announcement during the Academy Awards. Clinton’s campaign went into damage control after finishing in third. Whilst her campaign had the money to continue past the early primaries, she did not want another candidate to build up the momentum to take her out of the running.
In a very similar to the Democratic caucus, Newt Gingrich’s victory dealt a great blow to Jeb Bush’s momentum. Whilst Gingrich’s candidacy was based on the great Christian ability to forgive Republicans, few expected this to play out in reality. It seemed that Jeb Bush didn’t have a fucked enough career to win against someone like Newt Gingrich. Bush’s campaign became even more pathetic after this loss, as he knew that New Hampshire was unwinnable. Clint Eastwood brushed the result off; he practically ignored the state and finished behind Alan Keyes.
New Hampshire’s primary kept its traditional role as a boost for anti-war candidates; Eastwood and Shakur won with record numbers. The media and pundits seemingly realized that both of them were viable candidates in the running. While each received loads of free media due to their celebrity status, now their candidacies weren’t just a chuckle and a goof on Leno or Letterman. Hillary Clinton unsuccessfully used a campaign based on fear - telling voters to imagine President Makaveli responding to a 3 am a phone call. Clinton’s campaign lost the important Michigan, South Carolina and Nevada contests to Shakur.
By the start of Super Tuesday, Vice President Gore was polling ahead of her. Whilst Gore had support in the later primary states, he didn’t have the campaign infrastructure to put on a strong effort through the convention. Clinton had the money, but declining approval ratings as her personal records were torn apart by the opposition. By April, Tupac Shakur had amassed his position as the Democratic nominee. Daschle’s loyalists largely kept the superdelegates in line despite a few last-ditch “Stop Pac” efforts. Unlike in 2000 and 2004, the Greens were more than willing to support the Democratic ticket in exchange for policy concessions and posts in the cabinet. Mayor Jello Biafra, previously seen as the 2008 Green Party frontrunner, performed a revised version of “California Über Allies” about Governor Eastwood in a campaign-concert with Tupac. Unceremoniously, Shakur named economist Samuel Bowles as his running mate.
On the Republican side, the battle remained fierce. Bush was done by Super Tuesday, his campaign ending with the realization that a Bush would likely never rule America again (at least if Tupac had his way). Voters had enough with a weak personality against the finely aged Clint Eastwood and Newtie Boy - The Empire Strikes Back. With our dearly departed commander Oliver North by his side, the American Milosevic tried everything he could to gain traction. Wouldn’t it be nice to go to leave the United Nations and stop that moist anti-American socialist Edward Leigh from telling us what to do? And isn’t the only way to stop Sharia Law in our country to back Saudi Arabia and make America an official Christian state? Gingrich fought long and hard, but what the public really needed was the supposed “moderate” in the race; who supported urban gentrification and abolishing social security.
Bush was the son of a president, the brother of another, and the next in line to the Republican throne. Of course, his candidacy has been referred to as a Skakespherian tragicomedy, due to his pathetic performances in the debates and wishy-washy views. Bush III didn’t have the intellectualism of his father nor the Southern charm of his brother. Off from the start, Jeb failed to make himself clear where he stood on North’s impeachment, then tried to court favors with President Miller. Bush was too much of a status quo candidate who didn’t want to rock the boat and didn’t exactly fit the mood of the 2008 election. This was made even more shocking when the arch-conservative anti-establishment candidate was revealed.
Newt Gingrich‘s four chaotic and stubborn years as Speaker of the House seemed to have been forgotten, along with his two extramarital affairs it seemed. Gingrich was still a man puzzled that a telephone could order McDonald's or write bad works of alternate history. Gingrich was a man who could pull off adultery and convert to the evil Papist side while still leading amongst evangelicals. Then there was a man completely sure of himself - Governor Clint Eastwood. He had lived the rest of his life to great success, and surely his presidential campaign would be no exception. Eastwood’s anti-administration policies were all Republicans needed to salvage their political hopes and stop the socialist bogeyman.
This applied up and down the ballot - 2008 was the first presidential election where not only the presidential primaries were contested. Gingrich, President North’s strongest defender on the chat show circuit, endorsed several candidates challenging pro-impeachment representatives. Eastwood struck back, supporting his fellow small-l libertarians; and when that didn’t work out, he backed quite a few capital-l Libertarians. Bush wasn’t above the fight either; his donors also backed more conventional Republicans against the anti-establishment onslaught.
Downballot races were impacted by the Democratic side as well. Tupac Shakur’s candidacy inspired several people to announce their candidacies to move the party in a leftist direction. While the Shakur campaign lagged behind the Clinton campaign when it came to fundraising, they had the edge in numbers of volunteers and small-dollar donations. While Shakur likely had the most radical platform of any Democratic candidate for president, his platform resonated with a public who demanded a political revolution. While the campaigns of Gore and Clinton brought up past scandals surrounding Shakur’s criminal record and rap lyrics, the public largely seemed indifferent after receiving mountains of information. After all, it was 2007; why did it matter that Tupac was a member of the Communist Party?
Iowa’s unique blend of voters provided for an interesting result when voters went to the polls on January 3rd. On one hand, there was the traditional labor of the Democratic Party, coupled with the Republican’s Moral Majority. On the Democratic side, former Vice President Al Gore pulled off a narrow plurality over Shakur. This was good news for Gore’s campaign, which had lost morale and excitement after his spontaneous campaign announcement during the Academy Awards. Clinton’s campaign went into damage control after finishing in third. Whilst her campaign had the money to continue past the early primaries, she did not want another candidate to build up the momentum to take her out of the running.
In a very similar to the Democratic caucus, Newt Gingrich’s victory dealt a great blow to Jeb Bush’s momentum. Whilst Gingrich’s candidacy was based on the great Christian ability to forgive Republicans, few expected this to play out in reality. It seemed that Jeb Bush didn’t have a fucked enough career to win against someone like Newt Gingrich. Bush’s campaign became even more pathetic after this loss, as he knew that New Hampshire was unwinnable. Clint Eastwood brushed the result off; he practically ignored the state and finished behind Alan Keyes.
New Hampshire’s primary kept its traditional role as a boost for anti-war candidates; Eastwood and Shakur won with record numbers. The media and pundits seemingly realized that both of them were viable candidates in the running. While each received loads of free media due to their celebrity status, now their candidacies weren’t just a chuckle and a goof on Leno or Letterman. Hillary Clinton unsuccessfully used a campaign based on fear - telling voters to imagine President Makaveli responding to a 3 am a phone call. Clinton’s campaign lost the important Michigan, South Carolina and Nevada contests to Shakur.
By the start of Super Tuesday, Vice President Gore was polling ahead of her. Whilst Gore had support in the later primary states, he didn’t have the campaign infrastructure to put on a strong effort through the convention. Clinton had the money, but declining approval ratings as her personal records were torn apart by the opposition. By April, Tupac Shakur had amassed his position as the Democratic nominee. Daschle’s loyalists largely kept the superdelegates in line despite a few last-ditch “Stop Pac” efforts. Unlike in 2000 and 2004, the Greens were more than willing to support the Democratic ticket in exchange for policy concessions and posts in the cabinet. Mayor Jello Biafra, previously seen as the 2008 Green Party frontrunner, performed a revised version of “California Über Allies” about Governor Eastwood in a campaign-concert with Tupac. Unceremoniously, Shakur named economist Samuel Bowles as his running mate.
On the Republican side, the battle remained fierce. Bush was done by Super Tuesday, his campaign ending with the realization that a Bush would likely never rule America again (at least if Tupac had his way). Voters had enough with a weak personality against the finely aged Clint Eastwood and Newtie Boy - The Empire Strikes Back. With our dearly departed commander Oliver North by his side, the American Milosevic tried everything he could to gain traction. Wouldn’t it be nice to go to leave the United Nations and stop that moist anti-American socialist Edward Leigh from telling us what to do? And isn’t the only way to stop Sharia Law in our country to back Saudi Arabia and make America an official Christian state? Gingrich fought long and hard, but what the public really needed was the supposed “moderate” in the race; who supported urban gentrification and abolishing social security.
I touched on it in the post, but I'll expand a bit. IOTL, Tupac said that he was only responsible for not stopping the other people in his hotel room, pointing out his respect for women that Afeni gave him. Given that we have two presidents who may be child rapists and the decision in Tupac's case was highly controversial IOTL, he is able to push ahead of the past charges. Many voters are simply apathetic about their politicians given that Oliver North literally killed 7.5 million people.
I've linked a video from 1994 of Tupac speaking about the trial - I imagine some of the phrasings he uses here will be done in TTL's 2008 primaries.
Thanks man!
Bookmark1995
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How can Tupac be a viable candidate ITTL?
He seems to be the kind of person Southern Strategy politicians are practically begging for: a symbol of the American inner city turmoil.
I doubt he would downplay his attacks on the establishment like Obama did to get moderate politicians on his side.
How would he fight off the Democratic Party establishment?
He seems to be the kind of person Southern Strategy politicians are practically begging for: a symbol of the American inner city turmoil.
I doubt he would downplay his attacks on the establishment like Obama did to get moderate politicians on his side.
How would he fight off the Democratic Party establishment?