DBWI: The Austro-Hungarian army dosen't collapse during the Brusilov Offensive

The Brusilov Offensive was the turning point for the eastern front, if not the entire war. The Austro-Hungarians eastern front line collapsed due to the sheer pressure and loss of life exerted on them by the Russians along with them being pushed too far and thin to reinforce, Austria-Hungary was essentially defenceless as the Russians began pouring into the east, the German army had to retreat or be outflanked, essentially giving up their gains made in 1915.

Any hope of a Central Powers victory was quashed in the timespan of a single season, the Austro-Hungarian's Italian front collapsed soon after due to mass desertions once the troops learnt of their hopeless situation, the remaining Central Powers fought on for another year before an Entente offensive shattered the western front in mid 1917, combined with a decisive British victory against the Ottomans in Mesopotamia, the Central Powers began surrendering one by one until on at 11:am on the 11th of November 1917, the German government officially signed an armistice with the Entente powers.

What if this was not the case?
 
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Even if that happened, Central powers would've lost regardless.

As we all know, some French soldiers managed to disable the railroad tracks which kept the Germans from being able to reinforce the Austrian-Hungarian forces and they pretty much were crushed. The victory gave some much-needed breathing room for the Tsar. Not enough to save him from being kicked off, but enough to keep the Romanovs in power, if basically as a constitutional monarchy.

Romania joined in pretty much soon after to get the land from Austria-Hungary, becoming as big as we know it.

The post-war treaties were pretty harsh, but after that devastating blow against the Germans with the defeat of the army, it was done.

Germany lost their colonial empire and some claims, but managed to come out of it better thanks to the new government and they were allowed to annex Austria, with Hungary becoming basically a vassal to Romania after things in the Balkans got ugly, leading to the Third Balkan War over in the 1930s when economic troubles hit and caused Yugoslavia to break (hence where we got Croatia-Slovenia and Bosnia-Herzegovina from and where Bulgaria claws back to prominence by having Turkey help it claim parts of Serbia in exchange for helping Turkey in Arabia before Albania and Montenegro would join up with Bulgaria after economic troubles broke the nations.)

If the Army held out, then the near-success would've still put Romania into war and if the Central powers got desperate, they might try unlimited submarine warfare and could even trigger the Americans into the war, which would screw them over.
 
Even if that happened, Central powers would've lost regardless.

As we all know, some French soldiers managed to disable the railroad tracks which kept the Germans from being able to reinforce the Austrian-Hungarian forces and they pretty much were crushed. The victory gave some much-needed breathing room for the Tsar. Not enough to save him from being kicked off, but enough to keep the Romanovs in power, if basically as a constitutional monarchy.

Romania joined in pretty much soon after to get the land from Austria-Hungary, becoming as big as we know it.

The post-war treaties were pretty harsh, but after that devastating blow against the Germans with the defeat of the army, it was done.

Germany lost their colonial empire and some claims, but managed to come out of it better thanks to the new government and they were allowed to annex Austria, with Hungary becoming basically a vassal to Romania after things in the Balkans got ugly, leading to the Third Balkan War over in the 1930s when economic troubles hit and caused Yugoslavia to break (hence where we got Croatia-Slovenia and Bosnia-Herzegovina from and where Bulgaria claws back to prominence by having Turkey help it claim parts of Serbia in exchange for helping Turkey in Arabia before Albania and Montenegro would join up with Bulgaria after economic troubles broke the nations.)

If the Army held out, then the near-success would've still put Romania into war and if the Central powers got desperate, they might try unlimited submarine warfare and could even trigger the Americans into the war, which would screw them over.
Romania is an interesting case for any scenario, who they side with in WW1 are often the side they go against in WW2 which makes sense, both sides held land they wanted, Transylvania was owned by AH and Moldavia was owned by Russia. Yet again they could seize Moldavia ITTL during the Russian civil war thats bound to happen.

asabout the Central Powers losing, yes they absolutely would've but if they held out long enough Russia would descend into civil war they would kick them out of the war, most likely taking large swaths of eastern Europe, especially Ukraine for their fertile land, granted they would lose all this when the Entente breaks them, but they could become independent states instead of being handed back to a hostile communist power.
the Russians could be taken over by the communist party, who were gaining traction already due to the food shortages.

The Germans holding out for longer though, in the end that would be worse for them, ESPECIALLY if they get close to breaking the trench line. If that was the case i very well imagine that Germany would be subjected to much harsher peace terms, the British and Russians held the French back during the peace agreements OTL, if they experienced an extra year or two of dead and maimed men, i don't think they'd stop the French's quest for Vengeance. Germany may even be split into several states if they do enough damage. Europe realised how powerful a united Germany is, it took nearly the entire WORLD to bring them down, the Entente isn't risking that fight again.
 
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Romania is an interesting case for any scenario, who they side with in WW1 are often the side they go against in WW2 which makes sense, both sides held land they wanted, Transylvania was owned by AH and Moldavia was owned by Russia,

also about the Central Powers losing, yes they absolutely would've but if they held out long enough Russia would descend into civil war they would kick them out of the war, most likely taking large swaths of eastern Europe, especially Ukraine for their fertile land, granted they would lose all this when the Entente breaks them, but they could become independent states.
the Russians could be taken over by the communist party, who were gaining traction already due to the food shortages.

The Germans holding out for longer though, in the end that would be worse for them, ESPECIALLY if they get close to breaking the trench line. If that was the case i very well imagine that Germany would be subjected to much harsher peace terms, the British and Russians held the French back during the peace agreements, if they experienced an extra year or two of dead and maimed men, i don't think they'd stop the French's quest for Vengeance. Germany may even be split into several states if they do enough damage. Europe realised how powerful a united Germany is, it took nearly the entire WORLD to bring them down, the Entente isn't risking that fight again.

Yeah, World War II was pretty ridiculous though really it was Russia vs Bulgaria, Italy vs fascist Spain+Portugal and China (plus the US) vs Japan if I got thingd correctly.

The war did help China pull itself together and the fortuitous side-effect of killing Kai-Shek, allowing the Chinse Democratic League to put in reforms to make China a real democracy, even if it did cost them Tibet and Manchuria (thanks to that weird-ass Russian baron wanting to recreate the Qing and forcefully creating Manchu nationalism) and Uhygurstan later (though that was because they wanted to join up with Turkestan after Russia let them go post WW2).

Russia definitely dodged a bullet. Lenin was a fascinating theorist for agrarian-socialism and communism, but I doubt he could've made that work without bloodshed. Granted, the Minority party leader at the time, Leon Trotsk, thought he was still pretty okay.

Germany losing relatively quickly was definitely beneficial. I doubt we would've gotten the Franco-Germanic Concord out of that deal (which is why Japan stayed far far away from French Indochina).
 
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Yeah, World War II was pretty ridiculous though really it was Russia vs Bulgaria, Italy vs fascist Spain and Portugal and China (plus the US) vs Japan if I got thingd correctly.

The war did help China pull itself together and the fortuitous side-effect of killing Kai-Shek, allowing the Chinse Democratic League to put in reforms to make China a real democracy, even if it did cost them Tibet and Manchuria (thanks to that weird-ass Russian baron wanting to recreate the Qing and forcefully creating Manchu nationalism) and Uhygurstan later (though that was because they wanted to join up with Turkestan after Russia let them go post WW2).

Russia definitely dodged a bullet. Lenin was a fascinating theorist for agrarian-socialism and communism, but I doubt he could've made that work without bloodshed. Granted, the Minority party leader at the time, Leon Trotsk, thought he was still pretty okay.

Germany losing relatively quickly was definitely beneficial. I doubt we would've gotten the Franco-Germanic Concord out of that deal (which is why Japan stayed far far away from French Indochina).
You got the part about Russia wrong, it was Russia vs Bulgaria, Romania and basically the rest of Eastern Europe, the Ukrainians Poles and Balts were De-facto independent and fought against Russia for de-jure independence, hell France and Germany recognised their Independence (They even secretly supported them, they were needed as a sort of wall between them and the Russians in case the Russians ever got any ideas) Thats the reason why the Bulgarians and Romanians, despite seemingly overwhelming odds, survived for so long. I understand why your confused though, it's not taught about much as it was mostly an Asian and Eastern Europe conflict, it never concerned the Anglosphere.
 
You got the part about Russia wrong, it was Russia vs Bulgaria, Romania and basically the rest of Eastern Europe, the Ukrainians Poles and Balts were De-facto independent and fought against Russia for de-jure independence, hell France and Germany recognised their Independence (They even secretly supported them, they were needed as a sort of wall between them and the Russians in case the Russians ever got any ideas) Thats the reason why the Bulgarians and Romanians, despite seemingly overwhelming odds, survived for so long. I understand why your confused though, it's not taught about much as it was mostly an Asian and Eastern Europe conflict, it never concerned the Anglosphere.

Oh yeah, though calling WW2 is a bit of a stretch. Romania wanted to basically take more of Eastern Europe and was willing to let Bulgaria claim more of the Balkans

From what i read, it was a pretty nasty war and did result in the conservative Russian parties getting electorally wiped. Bulgaria did manage to solidify itself as the great power of the Balkans and Romania did succeed in their part. Though not many real winners in that one like in the prior war.
 
Oh yeah, though calling WW2 is a bit of a stretch. Romania wanted to basically take more of Eastern Europe and was willing to let Bulgaria claim more of the Balkans

From what i read, it was a pretty nasty war and did result in the conservative Russian parties getting electorally wiped. Bulgaria did manage to solidify itself as the great power of the Balkans and Romania did succeed in their part. Though not many real winners in that one like in the prior war.
it was a Pyrrhic victory at best, some historians even argue it as a trade off or even net loss for the romanians, they isolated themselves from the rest of Europe with their aggressiveness, even Bulgaria abandoned them after the war, tensions over silistria and the aggressive threats towards Bulgaria drove them to ally against them (The newly formed eastern Europeon states made a pact of defense, the main goal was defence from Russia and maybe Germany, but cutting down Romania to size was a secondary goal.).
 
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