The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project
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There is a WWI equivalent, and then when there should be WWII there is a coldish war, with Japan focusing on China and the various 'liberating' movements in colonies. Their best (covert) success was dividing Indonesia into a mess of fragmented states vulnerable to Japanese influence.
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Speaking of Indonesia:
This is my final plan for Borneo.
Rundown,
- The 2 southwestern states are removed. These are minor regions, so I see them as being split between Lanfang and Banjar.
- Lanfang is now centered on where the majority of the Bornean Chinese live, per Oryxslayer's map
- Pontianak has the northernmost reaches of Lanfang. This is because I find that Lanfang would find that area hard to control.
Indian Political Parties (WIP):
The worlds largest democracy, India can be almost divided into two politically and the way it votes at a federal level. In the South, it is much more left-wing, with socialist, communist and generally left-wing parties doing well there. In the North, Nationalist Parties and right-wing conservative parties tend to do well there. There are some prominent state only parties, but the 4 national parties are generally the largest (however the BJP, BSP and MIM all get higher percentages of the vote than the Marxists generally). Regional Parties at a state level however play a much bigger factor as in state politics its often the regional parties that are the ones that take power whilst the national parties often either are forced into coalitions or onto the crossbench.
Lok Sabha - 2500 Seats
Rajya Sabha - 750 Seats
National Parties:
Communist Party of India - Centre-Left to Left-Wing (Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy, Left-Wing Populism, Direct Democracy, Grassroots Democracy, Progressivism, Secularism)
Currently the ruling party in India, they are the party of social democracy and are pretty similar to a lot of other social democratic parties (despite what their name indicates). The second oldest party were radicals before but have mellowed out and instead champion social changes and recognition of many social matters as well as pushing renewable energy and equality of all its citizens regardless of religion. They are home to the large union presence within India and advocate for the workers rights (with the party introducing a minimum wage, mandatory superannuation and healthcare for all workers in the 90's as well as national healthcare in the 2000's).
Indian National Congress - Centre (Social Liberalism, Economic Liberalism, Third Way, Secularism)
The Party of Ghandi and the oldest party in Indian politics, over the last 30 years has moved towards the centre as it has followed more Liberal Principles as opposed to the Communists who have become the party of social democracy over the last quarter of a century. They have become the party of big business and small business alike. The party currently is in government in Maharashtra, Sindh and Haryana as well as the capital region.
Democratic People's Party - Centre-Right (Social Conservatism, Economic Conservatism, Secularism)
The main party on the right in Indian politics, the party was formed in the 1950's to be a major conservative voice in Indian politics (due to the large amount of voices on the left that there was, with Congress and the Communists both holding significant amounts of seats in federal politics). The party advocates for social conservatism as well as economic conservatism, maintaining that there should be fiscal responsibility and fiscal balance. They're somewhat recovering still after an unpopular term in power between 2009 and 2014 where despite good economic growth, most of their social policy was so unpopular that the Communists reversed almost all of it immediately.
Marxist Party of India - Far-Left (Communism, Marxism-Leninism, Secularism)
The Marxist Party is an out and out communist party. Its members think that the Communist Party are traitors who have betrayed the cause of a socialist India. They advocate for eventually easing into the communist ways whilst retaining some measures of democracy. However despite running in all corners of India, they aren't a major party mostly (only garnering around 5-7% of the vote nationally). The party typically does well in rural areas as the party isn't taken that seriously in urban areas (where it is dominated by the big 3 at a national level).
Dravidian (Southern Indian) Parties:
Dravidia Munnetra Khazagham - Centre-Left (Social Democracy, Economic Liberalism)
The main regional party on the left in Southern India, does very well in state elections and holds power in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andra Pradesh, Telengana. They're neither affiliated with the Communist Party nor Congress but work with both parties on occasion.
Dravidia Gathabandhan - Centre to Centre-Right (Social Liberalism, Economic Liberalism, Third Way)
The main party on the right in south indian politics. They are typically not all that conservative however socially. They are a very pro-business party, supporting smaller businesses which the party does well with. The party currently has a mayors in Bangalore and Mysore. They have typically been out of power in most of the states in the southern part of the country mostly (except for a brief period in the 1980's and late 2000's where they were able to sweep into power in the south, only to lose most of their hold of states by the mid 2010's).
Revolutionary Socialist Bloc - Left to Far-Left (Socialism, Communism)
The main regional socialist party in the south with affiliations to the Marxist Party federally. They currently are in charge of Kerela at a state level.
Tamil Kuttani - Syncretic (Tamil Issues, Regionalism, Tamil Autonomism)
Regional party that runs in Tamil Nadu that focuses solely on the matters of the people of Tamil Nadu
Bharat (Northern Indian) Parties:
Bahujan Samaj Party - Centre-Left (Human Rights, Social Equality, Social Justice, Self Respect, Secularism)
One of the main regional parties in Northern India. The party seeks to represent the less fortunate in the country, the party is the major regional party on the left in the North.
Bharatiya Jayanta Party - Right-Wing (Social Conservatism, Hindu Nationalism, Indian Nationalism, National Conservatism, Economic Populism, Right-Wing Populism)
The main Hindu Nationalist Party in Indian politics, advocates for Hindu Issues mainly and have a Hindu Nationalist streak about them as well are being socially conservative and incredibly nationalist. The party currently has a majority in Gujurat, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Don't have much appeal besides Hindu Nationalists and hardliners (as they're often seen as too divisive).
Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen - Right-Wing (Muslim Issues, Muslim Nationalism, Social Conservatism, Indian Nationalism, Economic Populism, Right-Wing Populism, National Conservatism)
Very similar to the BJP but for Muslim issues. Have a Muslim Nationalist streak about them as well as being incredibly nationalist. They currently control Balochistan. Don't have much appeal besides Islamic Nationalists and hardliners (as they're often seen as too divisive).
Shiromani Akali Dal - Centre-Right (Punjabi Nationalism, Punjabiyat, Punjabi Autonomism, Social Conservatism)
Represents Punjabi interests mainly, with the party being dominant in the Pubjab region (including West and East Punjab).
Banned Party:
Royalists - Far-Right (Conservatism, Monarchism, British Raj, Authoritarianism)
The Royalists were the party in charge after the coup led by forces that favoured the British Monarchy. After the royalists were removed from office (charged and summarily executed), the party was banned and the Indians didn't have many relations with Britain until 1990.
The worlds largest democracy, India can be almost divided into two politically and the way it votes at a federal level. In the South, it is much more left-wing, with socialist, communist and generally left-wing parties doing well there. In the North, Nationalist Parties and right-wing conservative parties tend to do well there. There are some prominent state only parties, but the 4 national parties are generally the largest (however the BJP, BSP and MIM all get higher percentages of the vote than the Marxists generally). Regional Parties at a state level however play a much bigger factor as in state politics its often the regional parties that are the ones that take power whilst the national parties often either are forced into coalitions or onto the crossbench.
Lok Sabha - 2500 Seats
Rajya Sabha - 750 Seats
National Parties:
Communist Party of India - Centre-Left to Left-Wing (Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy, Left-Wing Populism, Direct Democracy, Grassroots Democracy, Progressivism, Secularism)
Currently the ruling party in India, they are the party of social democracy and are pretty similar to a lot of other social democratic parties (despite what their name indicates). The second oldest party were radicals before but have mellowed out and instead champion social changes and recognition of many social matters as well as pushing renewable energy and equality of all its citizens regardless of religion. They are home to the large union presence within India and advocate for the workers rights (with the party introducing a minimum wage, mandatory superannuation and healthcare for all workers in the 90's as well as national healthcare in the 2000's).
Indian National Congress - Centre (Social Liberalism, Economic Liberalism, Third Way, Secularism)
The Party of Ghandi and the oldest party in Indian politics, over the last 30 years has moved towards the centre as it has followed more Liberal Principles as opposed to the Communists who have become the party of social democracy over the last quarter of a century. They have become the party of big business and small business alike. The party currently is in government in Maharashtra, Sindh and Haryana as well as the capital region.
Democratic People's Party - Centre-Right (Social Conservatism, Economic Conservatism, Secularism)
The main party on the right in Indian politics, the party was formed in the 1950's to be a major conservative voice in Indian politics (due to the large amount of voices on the left that there was, with Congress and the Communists both holding significant amounts of seats in federal politics). The party advocates for social conservatism as well as economic conservatism, maintaining that there should be fiscal responsibility and fiscal balance. They're somewhat recovering still after an unpopular term in power between 2009 and 2014 where despite good economic growth, most of their social policy was so unpopular that the Communists reversed almost all of it immediately.
Marxist Party of India - Far-Left (Communism, Marxism-Leninism, Secularism)
The Marxist Party is an out and out communist party. Its members think that the Communist Party are traitors who have betrayed the cause of a socialist India. They advocate for eventually easing into the communist ways whilst retaining some measures of democracy. However despite running in all corners of India, they aren't a major party mostly (only garnering around 5-7% of the vote nationally). The party typically does well in rural areas as the party isn't taken that seriously in urban areas (where it is dominated by the big 3 at a national level).
Dravidian (Southern Indian) Parties:
Dravidia Munnetra Khazagham - Centre-Left (Social Democracy, Economic Liberalism)
The main regional party on the left in Southern India, does very well in state elections and holds power in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andra Pradesh, Telengana. They're neither affiliated with the Communist Party nor Congress but work with both parties on occasion.
Dravidia Gathabandhan - Centre to Centre-Right (Social Liberalism, Economic Liberalism, Third Way)
The main party on the right in south indian politics. They are typically not all that conservative however socially. They are a very pro-business party, supporting smaller businesses which the party does well with. The party currently has a mayors in Bangalore and Mysore. They have typically been out of power in most of the states in the southern part of the country mostly (except for a brief period in the 1980's and late 2000's where they were able to sweep into power in the south, only to lose most of their hold of states by the mid 2010's).
Revolutionary Socialist Bloc - Left to Far-Left (Socialism, Communism)
The main regional socialist party in the south with affiliations to the Marxist Party federally. They currently are in charge of Kerela at a state level.
Tamil Kuttani - Syncretic (Tamil Issues, Regionalism, Tamil Autonomism)
Regional party that runs in Tamil Nadu that focuses solely on the matters of the people of Tamil Nadu
Bharat (Northern Indian) Parties:
Bahujan Samaj Party - Centre-Left (Human Rights, Social Equality, Social Justice, Self Respect, Secularism)
One of the main regional parties in Northern India. The party seeks to represent the less fortunate in the country, the party is the major regional party on the left in the North.
Bharatiya Jayanta Party - Right-Wing (Social Conservatism, Hindu Nationalism, Indian Nationalism, National Conservatism, Economic Populism, Right-Wing Populism)
The main Hindu Nationalist Party in Indian politics, advocates for Hindu Issues mainly and have a Hindu Nationalist streak about them as well are being socially conservative and incredibly nationalist. The party currently has a majority in Gujurat, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Don't have much appeal besides Hindu Nationalists and hardliners (as they're often seen as too divisive).
Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen - Right-Wing (Muslim Issues, Muslim Nationalism, Social Conservatism, Indian Nationalism, Economic Populism, Right-Wing Populism, National Conservatism)
Very similar to the BJP but for Muslim issues. Have a Muslim Nationalist streak about them as well as being incredibly nationalist. They currently control Balochistan. Don't have much appeal besides Islamic Nationalists and hardliners (as they're often seen as too divisive).
Shiromani Akali Dal - Centre-Right (Punjabi Nationalism, Punjabiyat, Punjabi Autonomism, Social Conservatism)
Represents Punjabi interests mainly, with the party being dominant in the Pubjab region (including West and East Punjab).
Banned Party:
Royalists - Far-Right (Conservatism, Monarchism, British Raj, Authoritarianism)
The Royalists were the party in charge after the coup led by forces that favoured the British Monarchy. After the royalists were removed from office (charged and summarily executed), the party was banned and the Indians didn't have many relations with Britain until 1990.
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Just noting that previous discussion had india become a military/royal dictatorship not too long after independence. This state would focus on economic prosperity, and was able to bring India industry unlike the INC IRL. You might actually have known this already, I don't see any timeline conflicts in the list. However, what happened next in the 70s/80s, when the regime reached it's expected conclusion, was always unknown: the state could relapse like South Korea before democratising, or actually achieve democracy like the Philippines. It seems we will go with the later.
Didn't really see that discussion. I'd imagine none of them would be involved anyway even there was a dictatorship.
in short, the UK tries to set up another loyal dominion under a White Monarch in India but that fails and a local Prince coups the Govt. The UK is fine since the general situation of loyalty is still intact. The new conservative monarch and the socialist legislature are at odds and increasingly ignore each other, so when the UK grants independence, the Monarch uses his popularity and military powers to dissolve the Congress and stuff it with loyalists. I think the consensus was that the monarch would be the Nizam rather then a Singh or Bengali, so he dies in 1967, at which point the govt is now a full dictatorship. Something slips up in the 70s or 80s, and the new middle class creating by the industrialization program are out in the streets calling for democracy.
So yeah, I don't see why those parties would be incompatible with this pre-history.
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other way aroundSo just to be on the same page, red is Lanfang, green is Pontianak, right? (or is it the other way around?)
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And this is the problem:
This q-bam is outdated. I'm using the (closest to) latest qbam. Thus, the borders are going to be wildly out of proportion. That's what I'm going to need help on.
And no, you can't just paste the outdated q-bam over the latest q-bam.
What's the base map for that?
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So, since I'm done with the 2K BAM and I'm on break until the 7th of January, I'm going back to this.
Las Provincias y Territorios de la República de California
1. Provincia de Nueva Albion - Sacramento
2. Provincia de San Francisco - San Francisco
3. Provincia de Los Ángeles - Los Ángeles
4. Provincia del Sur de Sierra Nevada - Ciudad de Portolà (OTL Fresno)
5. Provincia del Norte de Sierra Nevada - Santa Fe (OTL Reno)
6. Territorio de Nevada - Las Vegas
7. Provincia de San Diego - San Diego
8. Territorio de Vieja California - La Paz
9. Territorio de la Capital Federal - Monterey
So, here's what I'm thinking happens to California by OTL:
The San-Fran Bay area down to the Capital is the largest metropolis of California. Without Hollywood, SoCal remains a mostly dry, barren landscape of brush and desert. The cities of Los Angeles and San Diego are little more than outposts the size of Boston. Las Vegas is in a similar situation. Because of this, the Colorado river is still flowing all the way to sea, and mass drought and wildfires aren't a real problem. California's economy was dominated by agriculture over the past century, although manufacturing has been taking hold, and many cheap plastic goods display that "Made in California" sticker underneath. As it is continuing to develop into a stable democratic power, the future looks bright for the Republic.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Criticisms? Questions? Ideas? I'll take 'em!
Las Provincias y Territorios de la República de California
1. Provincia de Nueva Albion - Sacramento
2. Provincia de San Francisco - San Francisco
3. Provincia de Los Ángeles - Los Ángeles
4. Provincia del Sur de Sierra Nevada - Ciudad de Portolà (OTL Fresno)
5. Provincia del Norte de Sierra Nevada - Santa Fe (OTL Reno)
6. Territorio de Nevada - Las Vegas
7. Provincia de San Diego - San Diego
8. Territorio de Vieja California - La Paz
9. Territorio de la Capital Federal - Monterey
So, here's what I'm thinking happens to California by OTL:
The San-Fran Bay area down to the Capital is the largest metropolis of California. Without Hollywood, SoCal remains a mostly dry, barren landscape of brush and desert. The cities of Los Angeles and San Diego are little more than outposts the size of Boston. Las Vegas is in a similar situation. Because of this, the Colorado river is still flowing all the way to sea, and mass drought and wildfires aren't a real problem. California's economy was dominated by agriculture over the past century, although manufacturing has been taking hold, and many cheap plastic goods display that "Made in California" sticker underneath. As it is continuing to develop into a stable democratic power, the future looks bright for the Republic.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Criticisms? Questions? Ideas? I'll take 'em!
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Boston has a metro area population of 4.5 million, I wouldn't consider that an "outpost".
Compared to the 10mil of LA county on its own from OTL...is certainly smaller. BTW, I'm not gone either, I just had term papers and finals that will end tomorrow. So, is there anything particular the regulars here would like for me to work on? I'm thinking Ontario locals before more timeline work, but my plate is open so...
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What is California's approximate GDP Per Capita in OTL's U.S. Dollars?