The Way the Wind Blows: The Collapse of Western Capitalism and the Second Cold War

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Maponus

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Excellent update.

The North-West alliance is France and UNPA? (implied by Hoxha's complaint about 'libertines') How about the South-West Alliance?

I've noticed that India is conspicously absent from this TL so far... As has been the rest of the Third World, really.
 
Wayside

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Some guy in Albania fulminating against a literal worldwide revolution is the personification of the left, I have to say.

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It was 3 AM in the morning, the sun not yet risen over the ancient city of Tirana, and the President of Albania was alone at his desk, a blanket wrapped round his shoulders, tapping furiously at his state of the art typewriter.
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What an opener.

Maponus said:
“Autogestion is Anti-Communism”
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*galaxy brain*

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whose fall would have surely been inevitable even without the so-called Rainbow Coalition.
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Sure...

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and the Fascist racialist demagogue Enoch Powell
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Okay, that one actually is a fair point. Hoxha clearly loves calling everyone fascists, but among those people, Powell actually probably deserves it.
 

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So, this is an UNOFFICIAL report on what we know about the world so far:
  • (Former) United Kingdom: Troskist Republic (the fate of the monarchy is unknown) with several political factions. Loose member of the North-West Alliance
  • Ireland: Apparently united under the IRA, possibly socialist/communist.
  • France: Radical Communist(Anarchist?) under "autogestion" and an agressive foreign policy (decried by Hoxha as "revisionist imperialism"). Member of the North-West Alliance and the 'Union of European Republics'. Apparently VERY social liberal.
  • Italy: Republic under a "National Solidarity Government", trying to compromise between democracy and the radical left. Member of the South-West Alliance
  • USSR and the Warsaw Pact: Roughly as OTL, following Marxism-Leninism. Have apparently advanced on Austria, and possibly other nations. Everybody hates them.
  • United States: Now the United Peoples of North America, after the overthrow of a racist regime under Wallace and LeMay. Ruled by a "Rainbow Coalition" with Castroist, Maoist and possibly Christian Socialist elements. Controls the former US. MLK is alive and promotes Democratic Socialism.
  • Germany: East Germany remains a Soviet Puppet and has taken over the former American Occupation Zone. West Germany a "Federal Commune" led by Rudi Dutschke and influenced by the French left. Apparently aggresively clamoring for German reunification. Member of the Union of European Republics.
  • China: Under 'Maoism' but it does not seem to be the Maoism from OTL; it seems to be more internationally popular. Friendly with the UNPA and other nations oppossed to the USSR. Albania broke up with them.
  • Albania: THE LAST TRUE BEACON OF MARXISM AND SOCIALISM IN A SEA OF REVISIONISTS AND CLASS TRAITORS.
  • Spain: 'Carlist Spain' is apparently a 'Conservative Socialist' nation and member of the South-West Alliance.
  • Yugoslavia: As far as we know, still Titoist and member of the South-West Alliance.
  • Cuba: Unknown, but Castroism is mentioned as its own ideology, and influential in the UNPA and the Third World. Malcom X was exiled there. Che Guevara is also a strong symbol.
  • Chile: Apparently Cybersyn worked and is experimented in Great Britain too. Probably led by Salvador Allende. Was considered a possible ideological ally of Italy.
  • Vietnam: Apparently North Vietnam was invaded by the US before the revolution. Current status unknown.
  • Austria: Invaded by the USSR. Refugees have gone to Italy.
  • The "Middle East": Refused to sell oil to the US. Probably because of socialist revolutions? Some countries 'Don't even exist' according to the OP.
  • Greece: Might or might not be part of the "Western Bloc". I believe it has been invaded by the USSR.
Other countries are yet unaccounted for, at least in canon.

EDIT: According to the OP:

Maponus said:
Third World Revolutions spread much further than OTL before the Western Revolutions, and their success was one of the reasons for the bad economic situation for the West. Many of them will already by necessity be aligned to either the Soviets or China, or are "non-aligned", but the arrival of a Socialist West on the scene opens up new possibilities. There'll be a lot of variety.

One important factor is that national liberation leaders like Castro now have massive amounts of soft power due to the fact that they are heroes in the new Western political culture, which may be a doubled edged sword if they don't "live up".
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SpookyBoy

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Thanksforallthefish said:
So, this is an UNOFFICIAL report on what we know about the world so far:
  • (Former) United Kingdom: Troskist Republic (the fate of the monarchy is unknown) with several political factions. Loose member of the North-West Alliance
  • Ireland: Apparently united under the IRA, possibly socialist/communist.
  • France: Radical Communist(Anarchist?) under "autogestion" and an agressive foreign policy (decried by Hoxha as "revisionist imperialism"). Member of the North-West Alliance and the 'Union of European Republics'
  • Italy: Republic under a "National Solidarity Government", trying to compromise between democracy and the radical left. Member of the South-West Alliance
  • USSR and the Warsaw Pact: Roughly as OTL, following Marxism-Leninism. Have apparently advanced on Austria, and possibly other nations. Everybody hates them.
  • United States: Now the United Peoples of North America, after the overthrow of a racist regime under Wallace and LeMay. Ruled by a "Rainbow Coalition" with Castroist, Maoist and possibly Christian Socialist elements. Controls the former US. MLK is alive and promotes Democratic Socialism.
  • Germany: East Germany remains a Soviet Puppet and has taken over the former American Occupation Zone. West Germany a "Federal Commune" led by Rudi Dutschke and influenced by the French left. Apparently aggresively clamoring for German reunification. Member of the Union of European Republics.
  • China: Under 'Maoism' but it does not seem to be the Maoism from OTL; it seems to be more internationally popular. Friendly with the UNPA and other nations oppossed to the USSR. Albania broke up with them.
  • Albania: THE LAST TRUE BEACON OF MARXISM AND SOCIALISM IN A SEA OF REVISIONISTS AND CLASS TRAITORS.
  • Spain: 'Carlist Spain' is apparently a 'Conservative Socialist' nation and member of the South-West Alliance.
  • Yugoslavia: As far as we know, still Titoist and member of the South-West Alliance.
  • Cuba: Unknown, but Castroism is mentioned as its own ideology, and influential in the UNPA and the Third World. Malcom X was exiled there. Che Guevara is also a strong symbol.
  • Chile: Apparently Cybersyn worked and is experimented in Great Britain too. Probably led by Salvador Allende. Was considered a possible ideological ally of Italy.
  • Vietnam: Apparently North Vietnam was invaded by the US before the revolution.
  • The "Middle East": Refused to sell oil to the US. Probably because of socialist revolutions? Some countries 'Don't even exist' according to the OP.
  • Greece: Might or might not be part of the "Western Bloc"
Other countries are yet unaccounted for, at least in canon.
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I might just need to dust off my old completely unofficial and unfinished overview of what Japan looks like in this world (I never completed it after I lost one of the paragraphs I wrote and was too annoyed to redo it)
 

Bookmark1995

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Man, the lack of self-awareness is Hoxha is ridiculous. He believes himself to be the only T R U E Marxist. (#TrueMarxist)

Please stop beating around the bush, and tell us how this crazy world came to be!
 
markus meecham

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Thanksforallthefish said:
Excellent update.

The North-West alliance is France and UNPA? (implied by Hoxha's complaint about 'libertines') How about the South-West Alliance?

I've noticed that India is conspicously absent from this TL so far... As has been the rest of the Third World, really.
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Hey i was gonna do that shitpost, you revisionist!
 
Oledude

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Though all must salute their heroism in dealing the death blow to the old US Imperialism, they have completely failed to establish a true Vanguard party, instead pitting a mish-mash coalition of petit-bourgeois nationalist groups, liberal and social democratic renegades, romantic, idealist, non-Marxist student organisations, Clerical Socialist cults and terrorist organisations against the Fascist LeMay, whose fall would have surely been inevitable even without the so-called Rainbow Coalition.
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Jim Jones? :0
 
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