Since you are using a equirectangular projection of Mars, you get a pass on the straight borders
.Whats the tech level?
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.Whats the tech level?
Do you like straight borders? Do you like ISOTs? Do you like Mars? Well I have a treat for you.
I do not think I will ever finish this but I figure I shall post it here. Originally I wanted to do a full write up but ran out of energy when I made this a couple months ago. This is a fun little ISOT of America during the Articles of Confederation sent to terraformed Mars set a couple hundred years later. Even with a green Mars I figure it is a still a pretty dry planet away from the coast leading to a lot of straight claim lines. It is set right as this worlds first world war is about to happen. Little ASB because I am 100% I inflated the Native Americans population. I think my original idea was Georgia pushed them there to work the land and they eventually broke away and formed a EU like system. Some special notes-
-Washington is a former Virginia colony that broke away.
-Vermont is very isolationist. (Not exactly North Korea level but close)
-American Republic just discovered gold leading them to be the new money in town to shake things up.
-New York Empire is top dog with most competing for second place.
-United Nations of America is one of the new kids on the block with a strong federal government(close to OTL US system) that is attracting a lot of immigration from the older nations.
Any questions?
How is technology?
Who are the leading powers besides the New York Empire?
What is up with this Kingdom of France and Cailphate?
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I assume it's due to a lack of large scale immigration to that area? Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne get all the immigration, which royally fucks over both those in regional Australia and the metro areas.
I don’t know, actually. I think I originally intended it to be part of the Netherlands. I’ll remove it.
Since you are using a equirectangular projection of Mars, you get a pass on the straight borders
It seemed like the best Mars base map that I could find. haha
I would say in most areas tech is about 1940-50s. Yet farming and irrigation tech has evolved much faster and is slightly ahead.
If I had to rank it below New York there would be
Pennsylvania, Virginia, Georgia as second class powers.
United American Nations, American Republic and Washington as third tier but rising fast.
The original colonies just have such a man power and infrastructure advantage but now that a lot of the land is being settled the other nations are beginning to catch up.
So France and Caliphate is where I must admit my lack of knowledge is. I could not find good sources on types of people in America at the time. I assumed that there would be a minor french speaking population in various parts of the American continent that got ISOT. I did not know whether to name it Quebec or France so I compromised and decided for the name France with Quebec colors.
I really struggled with the naming the Caliphate but basically the idea is some escape slaves over the years trickle down the river that the base map of Mars had. Over the years it formed almost like a Liberia identity with slaves and free African Americans migrating to there. So in this timeline African Americans are heavily associated with Muslim kinda like how in OTL Arab has the same connotation. Islam in the ISOT has evolved to a much more moderate version than OTL with being an extreme minority compared to the rest of the world.
Lousy climate plus the soil is shit for agriculture: even if you have plenty of water you pretty much can't grow anything save the native plants.
Looks like the darkest green is actually the third country, the Saudi Arabia-expy.
It's hot, and you can't go to the beach to cool off like everywhere else in the country because crocodiles.
Even the points around Darwin?
I woulda figured there would be sometbing that grows there - and if not fishing, trade, something!
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AKA the person who made this spent too much time on freemaptools.com credit to Zagan for the idea
All seemed lost one day for the German Empire that November of 1918. But then the tide changed that day as the city of Weimar came forward one year from the future, bringing news of the horrible nature of the upcoming postwar situation. And most importantly of all, around the city formed a Dome exactly 500 kilometers from the city. The Spring Offensive that year met an unforseen obstacle, and when the Germans claimed that their technology had been the force behind the creation of the dome. In the force of increasing unrest in France, a white peace was created. Germany actually gained land from France that day, and made a protectorate of "Inner France". Germany had free reign inside the Dome, though not outside the Dome. While they lost West and East Prussia along with much of Silesia, they were able to keep much of Posen from getting into the hands of the newly independent Poland. Germany found itself losing all of its land outside the Dome, as the Allies were eager to find some way to punish Germany. The ethnic cleansing that resulted in those areas, wounds that still have not healed, is a story for another time. Sadly it was too late to save Austria-Hungary, though the newly formed Republic of German-Austria unanimously voted for annexation into Germany. Germany owned all of the German lands inside the Dome. A puppet Czech state was created inside of Germany, while The declared nation of "Czechoslovakia", really a Slovak state with some Czech land, was created outside. Outside the dome, a puppet Austria with a capital in Graz was created. Italy lost land to Germany too as a result of the creation of the Dome, but gained a small wedge of land from Austria. Slovenia gained much of it's irredentist claims in Carinthia, including Klagenfurt. The Dome could have course be opened and closed at whim, so the neutral Dutch, Danes, and Swiss had no trouble keeping the barriers from splitting their nations, while Belgium was no where near as lucky. The division between the Flemish and Wallonians, egged on by Germany, led to the dissolution of the nation. Inner Flanders was annexed by the Dutch, a puppet Walloon state was created in Inner Wallonia, while Luxembourg (which was able to lobby for its independence), regained its land lost in the Belgian Revolution and even somehow gained irredentist claims in France! (The second too small to be shown). All in all, The Great War can be viewed through rather strange lens with hindsight, historians are unsure of what to make of the war Germany was so set to lose...
(Outside of what I mentioned the world map is basically the same so if I made a mistake just tell me.)
All seemed lost one day for the German Empire that November of 1918. But then the tide changed that day as the city of Weimar came forward one year from the future, bringing news of the horrible nature of the upcoming postwar situation. And most importantly of all, around the city formed a Dome exactly 500 kilometers from the city. The Spring Offensive that year met an unforseen obstacle, and when the Germans claimed that their technology had been the force behind the creation of the dome. In the force of increasing unrest in France, a white peace was created. Germany actually gained land from France that day, and made a protectorate of "Inner France". Germany had free reign inside the Dome, though not outside the Dome. While they lost West and East Prussia along with much of Silesia, they were able to keep much of Posen from getting into the hands of the newly independent Poland. Germany found itself losing all of its land outside the Dome, as the Allies were eager to find some way to punish Germany. The ethnic cleansing that resulted in those areas, wounds that still have not healed, is a story for another time. Sadly it was too late to save Austria-Hungary, though the newly formed Republic of German-Austria unanimously voted for annexation into Germany. Germany owned all of the German lands inside the Dome. A puppet Czech state was created inside of Germany, while The declared nation of "Czechoslovakia", really a Slovak state with some Czech land, was created outside. Outside the dome, a puppet Austria with a capital in Graz was created. Italy lost land to Germany too as a result of the creation of the Dome, but gained a small wedge of land from Austria. Slovenia gained much of it's irredentist claims in Carinthia, including Klagenfurt. The Dome could have course be opened and closed at whim, so the neutral Dutch, Danes, and Swiss had no trouble keeping the barriers from splitting their nations, while Belgium was no where near as lucky. The division between the Flemish and Wallonians, egged on by Germany, led to the dissolution of the nation. Inner Flanders was annexed by the Dutch, a puppet Walloon state was created in Inner Wallonia, while Luxembourg (which was able to lobby for its independence), regained its land lost in the Belgian Revolution and even somehow gained irredentist claims in France! (The second too small to be shown). All in all, The Great War can be viewed through rather strange lens with hindsight, historians are unsure of what to make of the war Germany was so set to lose...
(Outside of what I mentioned the world map is basically the same so if I made a mistake just tell me.)
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Gave me a good laughHere's a map of Switzerland according to my reliable source, Yakko Warner from Animaniacs.
In Which I Happen Upon Some Old Maps And Decide To Post Them Here, Part 2.
I actually had a timeline for this, though I never posted it here. This was supposed to be my take on Timeline-191 after the Second Great War (with the first twenty years heavily inspired by Timeline-191: After the End) with about as much realism as the books, though there was little parallelism. These maps are meant to be from 1968, 1987, and 2019, which was where I got bored and stopped. I would infodump about the entire scenario, but I really don't feel like typing it all out, so I'll just wait for people to ask questions about stuff they're actually interested in.
I actually had a timeline for this, though I never posted it here. This was supposed to be my take on Timeline-191 after the Second Great War (with the first twenty years heavily inspired by Timeline-191: After the End) with about as much realism as the books, though there was little parallelism. These maps are meant to be from 1968, 1987, and 2019, which was where I got bored and stopped. I would infodump about the entire scenario, but I really don't feel like typing it all out, so I'll just wait for people to ask questions about stuff they're actually interested in.
So the CSA somehow reforms in 2019 and the US for whatever reason doesn't nuke it to the ground? I'm guessing some sort of Soviet style collapse of the US made such a thing (along with the other breakaway states for that matter) possible.
Nicely done, though one major question: why would the U.S. take colonies in Africa, of all places?
Funny you should say that, Austria was by no means willingly annexed by Germany in Anschluss. Sure, the Austrian people appeared to be generally supportive of it, though I question the overwhelming victory of the pro-unification/annexation side in the referendum since it was held in an already German occupied Austria, but the politicians of Austria were terrified of it. Chancellor Dollfuss had been assassinated in 1934 by Nazi agents in the first German attempt to annex Austria that ended in failure and his successor Kurt Schuschnigg devoted much of his political career to avoiding German annexation and seeking alliance with Italy. The reason for the lack of an alliance with Italy is not that "they would never ally with Italy" but rather that Italy did not want to antagonise Germany and also Mussolini's need for German support in his ill-advised Ethiopian campaigns. Schuschnigg's efforts went beyond just seeking alliances with Italy and Hungary to banning the Nazi Party in Austria and also imprisoning many of those responsible for the July Putsch of 1934.
Whilst it is true that Austria was fascist and had been since the days of Dollfuss, it was 'austrofascist' something wholly distinct from National Socialism that was devoted to maintaining Austria as an independent state, even as the 'better German state'. Even in the dying days of Austria as an independent nation Schuschnigg put in considerable effort to maintain Austria's independence. Even on the day that German troops crossed the Austro-German border, he was desperately appealing to the League of Nations, France and Britain for support. Anschluss came about, not because of popular demand, but because Hitler issued Schuschnigg with an ultimatum demanding, among other things, the putting of Arthur Seyss-Inquart in the role of Minister of Security, giving the Nazis control of the Austrian police, and the release of those responsible for the assassination of Dollfuss. Schuschnigg's response was to hold a plebiscite on Anschluss, scheduled for 13 March 1938, and Hitler responded ruthlessly, demanding that the plebiscite be scrapped (suggesting he was not confident of a Anschluss victory) and then demanding Schuschnigg's resignation and his replacement by Seyss-Inquart. Schuschnigg reluctantly resigned but this did not stop German soldiers invading Austria on 11 March. Yes, they were met by 'jubilant crowds' but this can be seen as more down to Hitler being seen as a liberator from the supposed oppression of the Austrian people by Schuschnigg and his Fatherland Front than sheer joy at unification. If that isn't enough to convince you, there were also mass arrests in the aftermath of Anschluss as thousands of Austrians tried to escape the Nazi invasion of their country.
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So the Hashemites get the Hejaz, Levant, and Mesopotamia (I presume the darker chunks are Autonomous Regions), the Omanis get the smaller Gulf States and Yemen (I presume federation and lots of luck), while the Saudis get the High Desert and a bit of Oil.
But what is with Kuwait?
Was the über-Caliphate of 1987 fascist? Communist? I presume it can't be anything else than a totalitarian system... and how did it break apart?
I love this.
Wait, how does the USSR already controls the Ukraine and the like by 1919?
What of the Belgian Congo and Monarchy of Belgium?
Must suck to be Poland, and France. (Lost of territory and industry.)
What of the rest of Yugoslavia with Slovenia not a part of it?
The USA over this? And the UK?
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