Alternate Electoral Maps II
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Trump is running essentially on the same platform he ran in OTL in 2000.
As a Brit, I have no clue what platform he ran on back then. All I know is that in OTL he supported the Democrats up until '87, then he switched to the Republicans until '99 when he joined Perot's Reform lot, then in 2001 he rejoined the Democrats again until 2011 when he became an independent only to rejoin the Republicans the following year.
Hickenlooper wasn't even remotely thinking about running for any office until 2002.
The elections of the "Thriving Twenties" in my Utopian-Socialist/Multi-National America Thing.
1918
Nicholas Longworth/Alfred A. Taylor (National): 416 EV
Ole J. Kvale/Max S. Hayes (Labor): 79 EV
William W. Kitchin/various (White): 36 EV
1922
Nicholas Longworth/Alfred A. Taylor (National): 360 EV
Whitmell P. Martin/Emil Seidel (Labor): 171 EV
1926
Joseph R. Knowland/Phillips Goldsborough (National): 274 EV
Johan Erickson/William H. Murray (Labor): 257 EV
1930
Lynn Frazier/Huey Long (Labor): 466 EV
Joseph R. Knowland/Phillips Goldsborough (National): 65 EV
1918
Nicholas Longworth/Alfred A. Taylor (National): 416 EV
Ole J. Kvale/Max S. Hayes (Labor): 79 EV
William W. Kitchin/various (White): 36 EV
1922
Nicholas Longworth/Alfred A. Taylor (National): 360 EV
Whitmell P. Martin/Emil Seidel (Labor): 171 EV
1926
Joseph R. Knowland/Phillips Goldsborough (National): 274 EV
Johan Erickson/William H. Murray (Labor): 257 EV
1930
Lynn Frazier/Huey Long (Labor): 466 EV
Joseph R. Knowland/Phillips Goldsborough (National): 65 EV
MoralisticCommunist
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The Seventh Party System: Part XXXIX
Map of the United States
Part I - Metropotamia
Part II - Alta California
Part III - North Carolina
Part IV - New Jersey
Part V - Adams
Part VI - Alabama
Part VII - Rhode Island
Part VIII - Sequoyah
Part IX - Assenisipia
Part X - East Florida
Part XI - Tennessee
Part XII - Kansas
Part XIII - Dakota
Part XIV - Arizona
Part XV - Delaware
Part XVI - Oregon
Part XVII - Ozark
Part XVIII - New Hampshire
Part XIX - Western Connecticut
Part XX - New York
Part XXI - Santo Domingo
Part XXII - South Carolina
Part XXIII - Baja California
Part XXIV - Chersonesus
Part XXV - Canal Zone Territory
Part XXVI - West Florida
Part XXVII - Missouri
Part XXVIII - Colorado
Part XXIX - Trinidad and Tobago
Part XXX - Pennsylvania
Part XXXI - Wisconsin
Part XXXII - Lincoln
Part XXXIII - Deseret
Part XXXIV - Platte
Part XXXV - Kiribati
Part XXXVI - New Mexico
Part XXXVII - Maine
Part XXXVIII - Alaska
A state named after Alexander Hamilton, none of the parties in the modern day state are anything close to the kind of politics this Founding Father would have approved of.
Early on in the state's history Hamilton was dominated mainly by a single party, the Silver Republicans. A splinter of the Republican party, they represented the miners of Hamilton who wished for the printing of more money through silver in order to pay for greater social benefits. Towards the turn of the 20th century, they would drop the Republican part of their name, becoming known as simply the Silver party, and began to work together with similar left wing movements such as the Populist and Labor parties. Finally, in 1932 they would become subsumed into the National Union party, retiring the name all together for 40 years.
However, when the Silver party was revived after the Conservative Revolution the state of Hamilton no longer looked as uniform as it once was. The Republican party had become entrenched throughout the cities of the state, and the fledgling Libertarian party soon grew by the 1980s to outnumber the Silverites themselves. With the Silver party in dire straits of becoming obsolete the party decided to merge with the Labor party once more, this time under the name of the Silver Labor party.
At first, this party would profess pretty much the same policies as any labor branch would. But then, when immigration from both Latin America and neighboring Deseret began to pick up the Silver Labor party soon found its new niche, nativism. Capitalizing on the xenophobia of the older citizens of Hamilton, the party soon found itself in power once again, and ruled for nearly a decade from 1994 to 2002. However with the state's natural mode being right wing the SL remained marginalized for the rest of the '00s. And while the party did manage to regain power in 2010, unlike in the rest of the country the Silver Labor party's reign did not last long and by 2012 they were already out of power.
In their place, the Libertarian-Republican coalition ruled supreme, enacting a massive privatization of state services in an effort to turn Hamilton into the next Colorado. And luckily for the right wing coalition the nativist wave which crashed upon most states in 2016 left Hamilton unaffected. However nativism would once again raise its ugly head in 2018 with the rise of MS-31.
A gang of vigilante Mormons who were disgusted by the Libertarian's lax policies towards illegal drugs, they terrorized Hispanic neighborhoods which they scapegoated for bringing drugs into the state. In response, various organized gangs of drug traffickers began indiscriminate attacks in Mormon neighborhoods which they blamed for supporting MS-31. With hundreds dead within a matter of months the entire state had become rife with ethno-religious strife.
In response, the Silver Labor party stepped up their propaganda efforts against immigrants, painting both Hispanics and Mormons as inherently violent minorities which needed aggressive policing. On the other side of the aisle the Libertarians and Republicans preached tolerance, arguing against the use of police raids and instead suggested that the problem would go away on it's own.
With the stakes higher than ever, turnout for the 2018 election approached record levels of an estimated 91%. The end result lead to the Silver Labor party gaining the most votes and most seats, leaving the Libertarians and Republicans in a very precarious situation. Well aware that another election would likely lead to a SL victory the coalition was forced to find a supply and confidence partner. In the end, the coalition made a corrupt bargain with the People's Party by betraying their electorate and announcing a new police crackdown on illegal drugs in line with Mormon philosophy, even down to prohibiting the sale of caffeine on Sundays.
This shocking 180 on policy surprised even the National leaders of the Libertarian party, who threatened to expel the entire Hamilton branch of the party if they continued forward with their drug recriminalization program. On the flip side, this move was met with critical acclaim by the Buckley Republican caucus, who remain firmly committed to the war on drugs. However, with the leaders of the Libertarian Party of Hamilton receiving an undisclosed amount in "speaking fees" from both the LDS Church and the private prison industry this bizarre twist looks set in stone for now.
Government:
Libertarians - Usually the party of maximum freedom both economically and socially, after making a corrupt bargain with the People's Party they flip-flopped and began recriminalizing drugs. The matter of where to find the money to fund a police surge has also found the Libertarian Party of Hamilton once again betraying their principles, by leveling steep sales taxes on the only legal drugs left in Hamilton, coffee and alcohol below 6% ABV.
Republicans - The party of moderate social conservatism and economical liberalism, they are one of the more right wing branches of the Republican party, even by Buckley standards. Having kept the Libertarians from completely legalizing any drugs for years, they are overjoyed to find the Libertarians now forced to recriminalize drugs and approve a surge in the police force.
People's Party - The party of Mormons, they managed to use their votes and monetary reserves to bribe the Libertarians into restarting the war on drugs. And while the party leadership fervently denies any connection whatsoever to the MS-31 vigilantes, the party's refusal to denounce the group's aims or tactics have raised many eyebrows.
Opposition:
Silver Labor - The party of those who are socially conservative and economically left wing, they use nativism and racial tensions as wedge issues to drive out the vote. And with many non-Hispanic, non-Mormon whites scared of being caught in the crossfire between MS-31 and drug cartels the party's fear mongering worked wonders and gained them 15 seats.
Hispanos Unidos - A party for Hispanics, they gained three seats as nearly every Hispanic citizen came out to vote in fear of the havoc that the Silver Labor party could cause. While they were obviously relieved when the Silver Labor party ended up not forming government, they were then disturbed to see the Libertarians mimic SL's policy, and its party leaders orchestrating a fifty thousand strong protest in Carson City. Unfortunately this protest did not end well for many of its participants, with hundreds being rounded up by police and shipped off to private prisons in the middle of the desert.
Greens - A socially democratic party focused on social liberalism and environment protection, it received many votes from Silver Labor dissidents however still remained small in this overwhelming conservative state.
Asian Action - A party for Asian-Americans, the fact that they could get a seat at all is proof of just how much immigration the state of Hamilton has received in recent years.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Map of the United States
Part I - Metropotamia
Part II - Alta California
Part III - North Carolina
Part IV - New Jersey
Part V - Adams
Part VI - Alabama
Part VII - Rhode Island
Part VIII - Sequoyah
Part IX - Assenisipia
Part X - East Florida
Part XI - Tennessee
Part XII - Kansas
Part XIII - Dakota
Part XIV - Arizona
Part XV - Delaware
Part XVI - Oregon
Part XVII - Ozark
Part XVIII - New Hampshire
Part XIX - Western Connecticut
Part XX - New York
Part XXI - Santo Domingo
Part XXII - South Carolina
Part XXIII - Baja California
Part XXIV - Chersonesus
Part XXV - Canal Zone Territory
Part XXVI - West Florida
Part XXVII - Missouri
Part XXVIII - Colorado
Part XXIX - Trinidad and Tobago
Part XXX - Pennsylvania
Part XXXI - Wisconsin
Part XXXII - Lincoln
Part XXXIII - Deseret
Part XXXIV - Platte
Part XXXV - Kiribati
Part XXXVI - New Mexico
Part XXXVII - Maine
Part XXXVIII - Alaska
A state named after Alexander Hamilton, none of the parties in the modern day state are anything close to the kind of politics this Founding Father would have approved of.
Early on in the state's history Hamilton was dominated mainly by a single party, the Silver Republicans. A splinter of the Republican party, they represented the miners of Hamilton who wished for the printing of more money through silver in order to pay for greater social benefits. Towards the turn of the 20th century, they would drop the Republican part of their name, becoming known as simply the Silver party, and began to work together with similar left wing movements such as the Populist and Labor parties. Finally, in 1932 they would become subsumed into the National Union party, retiring the name all together for 40 years.
However, when the Silver party was revived after the Conservative Revolution the state of Hamilton no longer looked as uniform as it once was. The Republican party had become entrenched throughout the cities of the state, and the fledgling Libertarian party soon grew by the 1980s to outnumber the Silverites themselves. With the Silver party in dire straits of becoming obsolete the party decided to merge with the Labor party once more, this time under the name of the Silver Labor party.
At first, this party would profess pretty much the same policies as any labor branch would. But then, when immigration from both Latin America and neighboring Deseret began to pick up the Silver Labor party soon found its new niche, nativism. Capitalizing on the xenophobia of the older citizens of Hamilton, the party soon found itself in power once again, and ruled for nearly a decade from 1994 to 2002. However with the state's natural mode being right wing the SL remained marginalized for the rest of the '00s. And while the party did manage to regain power in 2010, unlike in the rest of the country the Silver Labor party's reign did not last long and by 2012 they were already out of power.
In their place, the Libertarian-Republican coalition ruled supreme, enacting a massive privatization of state services in an effort to turn Hamilton into the next Colorado. And luckily for the right wing coalition the nativist wave which crashed upon most states in 2016 left Hamilton unaffected. However nativism would once again raise its ugly head in 2018 with the rise of MS-31.
A gang of vigilante Mormons who were disgusted by the Libertarian's lax policies towards illegal drugs, they terrorized Hispanic neighborhoods which they scapegoated for bringing drugs into the state. In response, various organized gangs of drug traffickers began indiscriminate attacks in Mormon neighborhoods which they blamed for supporting MS-31. With hundreds dead within a matter of months the entire state had become rife with ethno-religious strife.
In response, the Silver Labor party stepped up their propaganda efforts against immigrants, painting both Hispanics and Mormons as inherently violent minorities which needed aggressive policing. On the other side of the aisle the Libertarians and Republicans preached tolerance, arguing against the use of police raids and instead suggested that the problem would go away on it's own.
With the stakes higher than ever, turnout for the 2018 election approached record levels of an estimated 91%. The end result lead to the Silver Labor party gaining the most votes and most seats, leaving the Libertarians and Republicans in a very precarious situation. Well aware that another election would likely lead to a SL victory the coalition was forced to find a supply and confidence partner. In the end, the coalition made a corrupt bargain with the People's Party by betraying their electorate and announcing a new police crackdown on illegal drugs in line with Mormon philosophy, even down to prohibiting the sale of caffeine on Sundays.
This shocking 180 on policy surprised even the National leaders of the Libertarian party, who threatened to expel the entire Hamilton branch of the party if they continued forward with their drug recriminalization program. On the flip side, this move was met with critical acclaim by the Buckley Republican caucus, who remain firmly committed to the war on drugs. However, with the leaders of the Libertarian Party of Hamilton receiving an undisclosed amount in "speaking fees" from both the LDS Church and the private prison industry this bizarre twist looks set in stone for now.
Government:
Libertarians - Usually the party of maximum freedom both economically and socially, after making a corrupt bargain with the People's Party they flip-flopped and began recriminalizing drugs. The matter of where to find the money to fund a police surge has also found the Libertarian Party of Hamilton once again betraying their principles, by leveling steep sales taxes on the only legal drugs left in Hamilton, coffee and alcohol below 6% ABV.
Republicans - The party of moderate social conservatism and economical liberalism, they are one of the more right wing branches of the Republican party, even by Buckley standards. Having kept the Libertarians from completely legalizing any drugs for years, they are overjoyed to find the Libertarians now forced to recriminalize drugs and approve a surge in the police force.
People's Party - The party of Mormons, they managed to use their votes and monetary reserves to bribe the Libertarians into restarting the war on drugs. And while the party leadership fervently denies any connection whatsoever to the MS-31 vigilantes, the party's refusal to denounce the group's aims or tactics have raised many eyebrows.
Opposition:
Silver Labor - The party of those who are socially conservative and economically left wing, they use nativism and racial tensions as wedge issues to drive out the vote. And with many non-Hispanic, non-Mormon whites scared of being caught in the crossfire between MS-31 and drug cartels the party's fear mongering worked wonders and gained them 15 seats.
Hispanos Unidos - A party for Hispanics, they gained three seats as nearly every Hispanic citizen came out to vote in fear of the havoc that the Silver Labor party could cause. While they were obviously relieved when the Silver Labor party ended up not forming government, they were then disturbed to see the Libertarians mimic SL's policy, and its party leaders orchestrating a fifty thousand strong protest in Carson City. Unfortunately this protest did not end well for many of its participants, with hundreds being rounded up by police and shipped off to private prisons in the middle of the desert.
Greens - A socially democratic party focused on social liberalism and environment protection, it received many votes from Silver Labor dissidents however still remained small in this overwhelming conservative state.
Asian Action - A party for Asian-Americans, the fact that they could get a seat at all is proof of just how much immigration the state of Hamilton has received in recent years.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Could you do Mississippi next, and after that I think that you should enter the Mid-West/Ohio Valley (i.e. Illinois, Polypotamia, Saratoga, Washington, Kentucky, North Virginia)The Seventh Party System: Part XXXIX
Map of the United States
Part I - Metropotamia
Part II - Alta California
Part III - North Carolina
Part IV - New Jersey
Part V - Adams
Part VI - Alabama
Part VII - Rhode Island
Part VIII - Sequoyah
Part IX - Assenisipia
Part X - East Florida
Part XI - Tennessee
Part XII - Kansas
Part XIII - Dakota
Part XIV - Arizona
Part XV - Delaware
Part XVI - Oregon
Part XVII - Ozark
Part XVIII - New Hampshire
Part XIX - Western Connecticut
Part XX - New York
Part XXI - Santo Domingo
Part XXII - South Carolina
Part XXIII - Baja California
Part XXIV - Chersonesus
Part XXV - Canal Zone Territory
Part XXVI - West Florida
Part XXVII - Missouri
Part XXVIII - Colorado
Part XXIX - Trinidad and Tobago
Part XXX - Pennsylvania
Part XXXI - Wisconsin
Part XXXII - Lincoln
Part XXXIII - Deseret
Part XXXIV - Platte
Part XXXV - Kiribati
Part XXXVI - New Mexico
Part XXXVII - Maine
Part XXXVIII - Alaska
A state named after Alexander Hamilton, none of the parties in the modern day state are anything close to the kind of politics this Founding Father would have approved of.
Early on in the state's history Hamilton was dominated mainly by a single party, the Silver Republicans. A splinter of the Republican party, they represented the miners of Hamilton who wished for the printing of more money through silver in order to pay for greater social benefits. Towards the turn of the 20th century, they would drop the Republican part of their name, becoming known as simply the Silver party, and began to work together with similar left wing movements such as the Populist and Labor parties. Finally, in 1932 they would become subsumed into the National Union party, retiring the name all together for 40 years.
However, when the Silver party was revived after the Conservative Revolution the state of Hamilton no longer looked as uniform as it once was. The Republican party had become entrenched throughout the cities of the state, and the fledgling Libertarian party soon grew by the 1980s to outnumber the Silverites themselves. With the Silver party in dire straits of becoming obsolete the party decided to merge with the Labor party once more, this time under the name of the Silver Labor party.
At first, this party would profess pretty much the same policies as any labor branch would. But then, when immigration from both Latin America and neighboring Deseret began to pick up the Silver Labor party soon found its new niche, nativism. Capitalizing on the xenophobia of the older citizens of Hamilton, the party soon found itself in power once again, and ruled for nearly a decade from 1994 to 2002. However with the state's natural mode being right wing the SL remained marginalized for the rest of the '00s. And while the party did manage to regain power in 2010, unlike in the rest of the country the Silver Labor party's reign did not last long and by 2012 they were already out of power.
In their place, the Libertarian-Republican coalition ruled supreme, enacting a massive privatization of state services in an effort to turn Hamilton into the next Colorado. And luckily for the right wing coalition the nativist wave which crashed upon most states in 2016 left Hamilton unaffected. However nativism would once again raise its ugly head in 2018 with the rise of MS-31.
A gang of vigilante Mormons who were disgusted by the Libertarian's lax policies towards illegal drugs, they terrorized Hispanic neighborhoods which they scapegoated for bringing drugs into the state. In response, various organized gangs of drug traffickers began indiscriminate attacks in Mormon neighborhoods which they blamed for supporting MS-31. With hundreds dead within a matter of months the entire state had become rife with ethno-religious strife.
In response, the Silver Labor party stepped up their propaganda efforts against immigrants, painting both Hispanics and Mormons as inherently violent minorities which needed aggressive policing. On the other side of the aisle the Libertarians and Republicans preached tolerance, arguing against the use of police raids and instead suggested that the problem would go away on it's own.
With the stakes higher than ever, turnout for the 2018 election approached record levels of an estimated 91%. The end result lead to the Silver Labor party gaining the most votes and most seats, leaving the Libertarians and Republicans in a very precarious situation. Well aware that another election would likely lead to a SL victory the coalition was forced to find a supply and confidence partner. In the end, the coalition made a corrupt bargain with the People's Party by betraying their electorate and announcing a new police crackdown on illegal drugs in line with Mormon philosophy, even down to prohibiting the sale of caffeine on Sundays.
This shocking 180 on policy surprised even the National leaders of the Libertarian party, who threatened to expel the entire Hamilton branch of the party if they continued forward with their drug recriminalization program. On the flip side, this move was met with critical acclaim by the Buckley Republican caucus, who remain firmly committed to the war on drugs. However, with the leaders of the Libertarian Party of Hamilton receiving an undisclosed amount in "speaking fees" from both the LDS Church and the private prison industry this bizarre twist looks set in stone for now.
Government:
Libertarians - Usually the party of maximum freedom both economically and socially, after making a corrupt bargain with the People's Party they flip-flopped and began recriminalizing drugs. The matter of where to find the money to fund a police surge has also found the Libertarian Party of Hamilton once again betraying their principles, by leveling steep sales taxes on the only legal drugs left in Hamilton, coffee and alcohol below 6% ABV.
Republicans - The party of moderate social conservatism and economical liberalism, they are one of the more right wing branches of the Republican party, even by Buckley standards. Having kept the Libertarians from completely legalizing any drugs for years, they are overjoyed to find the Libertarians now forced to recriminalize drugs and approve a surge in the police force.
People's Party - The party of Mormons, they managed to use their votes and monetary reserves to bribe the Libertarians into restarting the war on drugs. And while the party leadership fervently denies any connection whatsoever to the MS-31 vigilantes, the party's refusal to denounce the group's aims or tactics have raised many eyebrows.
Opposition:
Silver Labor - The party of those who are socially conservative and economically left wing, they use nativism and racial tensions as wedge issues to drive out the vote. And with many non-Hispanic, non-Mormon whites scared of being caught in the crossfire between MS-31 and drug cartels the party's fear mongering worked wonders and gained them 15 seats.
Hispanos Unidos - A party for Hispanics, they gained three seats as nearly every Hispanic citizen came out to vote in fear of the havoc that the Silver Labor party could cause. While they were obviously relieved when the Silver Labor party ended up not forming government, they were then disturbed to see the Libertarians mimic SL's policy, and its party leaders orchestrating a fifty thousand strong protest in Carson City. Unfortunately this protest did not end well for many of its participants, with hundreds being rounded up by police and shipped off to private prisons in the middle of the desert.
Greens - A socially democratic party focused on social liberalism and environment protection, it received many votes from Silver Labor dissidents however still remained small in this overwhelming conservative state.
Asian Action - A party for Asian-Americans, the fact that they could get a seat at all is proof of just how much immigration the state of Hamilton has received in recent years.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Map of states which you haven't done yet.
Can you please cut it out? You've been quoting entire posts despite being told it's pretty annoying.
shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
This is a rather needlessly demanding and impetuous way of going about asking what you'd like to see next.
fashbasher
Banned
Rough outline for a gerrymander of two states within Western Europe that would likely still have a commanding left-leaning majority even today (there was a POD in the Seventies, which explains why most other borders are unchanged and internal demographics/party makeup of these two republics is somewhat different). Other licenses taken:
Manuel I isn't an explorer but still gets a republic named for him (ironically as he was a monarch), Columbus' brief residency in Porto Santo earns his namesake republic the Azores and Madeira, and the square electoral district in Sápmi is Rovaniemi.
Manuel I isn't an explorer but still gets a republic named for him (ironically as he was a monarch), Columbus' brief residency in Porto Santo earns his namesake republic the Azores and Madeira, and the square electoral district in Sápmi is Rovaniemi.
shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
You don't need to show all of Europe for what are two relatively small countries. It's just a lot of wasted space when you could have done bigger maps with more detail.
MoralisticCommunist
Banned
Yep, I've already started work on Mississippi, and I have already decided the next couple states after that as well, so you'll see them soon enough!
I might make a timeline where the point of deviation is July 4, 2018, when the ghost of George Washington pushes a big "reset" button located in the Washington head on Mount Rushmore, thus creating a 7th party system with different major parties. Nothing else would be different, except the OTL politicians would cease to hold any power. Edit: The Congressional Districts would be redrawn to be more compact
fashbasher
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In-universe it's a page from an American polisci textbook, so they chose to show the two unambiguously left-leaning European states in their context.
Thank you very much, you kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind person
do you have a basemap of each US state I could borrow? I'll give you credit.
POD: William Jennings Bryan accidentally drinks a potion that gives him eternal life, he wins the Democratic nomination for every year between 1896 and 2000, then he finally tries again in 2020 and narrowly beats President Trump.
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As he kept winning the nomination, conservative Democrats started running a third party, from 1928 to 1964, the Dixiecrats spoiled the election for Bryan.
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