Embrace the SUCK: Skallagrim's Unexpurgated Colour Key

Ashtagon

I only criticise this scheme for covering disparate entities with the same colour because that was one of the design goals of the scheme that this one claims to be a continuation of. In essense, I am criticising it on its own terms, not as an absolute.
 
Skallagrim

Skallagrim

Banned
It's the middle of the night where I live, but I still count it as Wednesday! Which means the update is HERE. (That's the anti-aliased version, the one with text that's not anti-aliased is HERE.) To everyone who offered suggestions for improvement: thank you!

Hereby I do officially declare this third version of SUCK to be pseudo-definitive. That is to say, I'm not currently planning new updates... but I'm not ruling them out, either. For the time being, this version stands as the finished product.

A complete list of the edits to this third version:

-- Changed the colour for "Napoleonic / Bonapartist France" to make it slightly darker

-- Changed "Prussia, Teutons" to "Prussia, Teutonic Order"

-- Added "Far-right Denmark"

-- Added "Far-right Norway"

-- Added "Far-left Norway"

-- Added "Far-right Sweden"

-- Added "Scania"

-- Changed "Far-right Scandinavian country (other than Finland)" to "Other radical Scandinavian country"

-- Changed the colour for "Monarchist Lithuania" to Dartmouth green

-- Added "Culturally German country in the Baltics, Livonian Order"

-- Added "Free City of Kraków"

-- Added "Zapadoslavia, united West Slavs"

-- Added "Székely, Hungarian (country in) Transylvania"

-- Added "Gagauzia"

-- Added "Secondary Algeria, Kabylia"

-- Changed "Secondary Algeria, northern Tuaregs" to "Tertiary Algeria, northern Tuaregs"

-- Changed "Tunesia" to "Tunisia"

-- Added "Yorubaland"

-- Changed "Kasaï" to "Kasaï, South Kasaï"

-- Added "Bir Tawil Triangle-based microstate"

-- Added "Tertiary Somali country, Puntland, Afar / Ogaden country"

-- Added "Buganda"

-- Added "Caprivi Strip-based country"

-- Added "Secondary Zimbabwean country, Matebeleland"

-- Added "Republic of Hatay / Hatay State"

-- Added "Primary Levantine Crusader state, Kingdom of Jerusalem"

-- Added "Secondary Levantine Crusader state, Principality of Antioch"

-- Added "Tertiary Levantine Crusader state, County of Tripoli"

-- Added "Quaternary Levantine Crusader state, County of Edessa"

-- Added "Pentiary Levantine Crusader state (ATL Levantine Crusader state)"

-- Added "Other Levantine Christian country"

-- Added "Mesopotamian-influenced country in Arabia"

-- Added "Khanate of Khiva"

-- Added "Khanate of Kokand"

-- Added "Emirate of Bukhara"

-- Added "Primary Kongsi republic, Lanfang Republic"

-- Added "Secondary Kongsi republic, Heshun Republic"

-- Added "Tertiary Kongsi republic, Santiaogou Federation"

-- Added "Republic of the North Solomons / Bougainville"

-- Added "Culturally Indonesian country in Australia"

-- Added "Independent Manchukuo, Japanese-influenced China"

-- Added "Independent Inner Mongolia, Mengjiang"

-- Changed "Shu Han" to "Shu Han, Sichuan-based power"

-- Added "Kingdom of Tungning"

-- Added "Daxi dynasty / Zhang Xianzhong's rebellion"

-- Added "Other Ming remnant"

-- Changed "Non-RoC Taiwan-based country" to "Taiwan-based country (other than RoC or Tungning)"

-- Added "Japanese-influenced Korean country"

-- Added "European-influenced / Christianised Japanese country"

-- Added "Aztlán / República del Norte"

-- Added "Secondary Guatemala, Los Altos"

-- Added "Independent Guanacaste"

-- Added "Secondary Haiti, Kingdom of Haiti"

-- Added "Far-left Venezuela"

-- Added "Zulia, Lake Maracaibo-based country"

-- Added "Riograndense Republic"

-- Added "Juliana Republic"

-- Added "Para"

-- Added "Pernambuco"

-- Added "Acre"

-- Added "Afro-dominated Brazilian country, Quilombos"

-- Added "Jesuit Missions"

-- Added "Liga Federal / Liga de los Pueblos Libres"

-- Added "Unitarian Argentina"

-- Added "Confederal Argentina"

-- Added "Buenos Aires"

-- Added "Entre Rios"

-- Added "Knights Templar" to Other entities

-- Added "Viewing country has this country as a puppet or vassal" to Diplomatic relations

-- Changed the font

-- Created a version where the anti-aliasing of the text is turned off
 

FancyHat

There are a few things I'd like you consider for the next update.
  • Add colors for the southern Chinese language groups (i.e. Gan, Xiang, Hakka)
  • Switch the colors for Ming and Tang
  • Add alternate tags for the Indian colors, applying them to Princely States
  • Add darker and lighter shades to the "Separate or Inset Maps" colors
Otherwise, this is really good. I've been using it since I first found out about it.
 
Valdore Javorsky

Valdore Javorsky

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SUCK is lovely. The colours harmony very well.
 
Augenis

Augenis

Valdore Javorsky said:
Why?
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Those Polish ethnicity borders make little to no sense, for one. Poles never made up a majority around Alytus and especially not in Sūduva, they were mostly limited to the east of the country and especially around Vilnius. As well as some minor contingents around Kaunas and the Nevėžis river, but those were mostly nobility and not the wider population.
 
Valdore Javorsky

Valdore Javorsky

Augenis said:
Those Polish ethnicity borders make little to no sense, for one. Poles never made up a majority around Alytus and especially not in Sūduva, they were mostly limited to the east of the country and especially around Vilnius. As well as some minor contingents around Kaunas and the Nevėžis river, but those were mostly nobility and not the wider population.
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The Polish area is pretty much where vilnius is
 
Skallagrim

Skallagrim

Banned
@Valdore Javorsky has of course created an ATL map, so I'm not sure how relevant it is, but regarding this particular area, there has always been considerable disagreement about how many Poles lived exactly where at which time. For instance, this map showing the situation in the 1850s shows Poles living in the wider area, but apparently as a minority. This map purporting to show the situation in 1880 shows no Poles there at all (I assume because it only shows purported majority languages in any given area). Contrarily, this map of 1937 claims that the Poles were a majority in the region by then. This map of the early 20th century situation, claiming to show majorities by district, supports that contention.

Are we to assume that Poles became a majority in the region at the turn of the century? Or is one set of maps inaccurate/biased? Perhaps both are inaccurate, and the true situation was always somewhere in between these extremes? I don't purport to know the answer, but if one wants to create a historically accurate ethno-linguistic historical map of the region, some in-depth research may be wise.

Needless to say, an ATL map can simply handwave the uncertainty and claim that the presented situation is a result of ATL circumstances. ;)
 
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