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  1. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    To some extent we are arguing semantics. You may be confusing chattel slavery and “just” Slavery. The police force in classical Athens was state-own slaves quite willing to go on strike if they were unhappy about something. There is the charming story of a slave girl in Alexandria in the...
  2. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    1. Well, obviously. 2. Some very intelligent comments have convinced me that any doing so would mean betraying everything western civilization have aspired to since the enlightenment. I’ll need an much earlier POD unless the regime are total monsters. 3. True by the mid nineteen century...
  3. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    First of all, I regret if anyone was offended. It certainly wasn’t my intention. It is simply the way I express myself. If I had needed a POD for breaking up the United States my title would likely have been: “Let’s Destroy the US!!!” While I haven’t been posting on the board, nor reading it...
  4. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    That is actually quite clever. I need a near-future world not changed utterly beyond recognition that essentially makes women the wards of men – rather like children in fact. Mistreatment and abuse viewed the same way as we’d view someone abusing a child in their care. The concept of making the...
  5. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    Odd. I asked this question because I’m writing a story in collaboration and for a plot-point we need a women-subjugation timeline with a post WWII POD. That was the very first thing we both agreed independently of each other. The west is badly weakened in the cold war. Less economic growth. A...
  6. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    Fascism or the Nazis seems unlikely to be a huge factor post world war II. Women being property doesn’t require Taliban psychoville. They were effectively property until well into the nineteen century. The problem with using Religion is that, along with women’s liberation, secularism had been...
  7. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    Religion, traditional values would obviously have to play an important part but is there a POD somewhere? After 1945 the GI's are getting back from the war and need the jobs that their women had taken over while they were fighting over seas. Having had a taste for independence, women are...
  8. Let’s subjugate women!!!

    Well not really but… If one wanted to create a scenario to postulate a general rollback of women’s right to, say mid nineteen century level making them property in all but name with a POD post WWII is there any way to do that short of space bats and orbital control lasers. Some sort of...
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