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  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • Maybe make that Margaret Beaufort,Edmund and Jasper all die when he is 1 week old and then RoY keeps him
  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • Because Louis XIII had great military abilities because he ended in a video called 100 best generals in history so EIV in TTL might be like and Tudor like Richelieu
  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • And George in TTL might marry Joanna of Portugal
    RedKing
    RedKing
    She was quite sickly IIRC and a bit too high ranking for George. Though it is you TL.
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    No in reality Aphonso V had a son John born in 1451 but died young in TTL he survives but he is born female
  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • I needed this because when in my TL Richard would marry Marie de Bourgogne England will not be ready for european war, Henry Tudor was good at economics right if i give EIV his politcal abilities EIV will not have problem making it military power
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    RedKing
    RedKing
    Okay, though you always just have Henry Tudor become an advisor to Edward IV.
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    How
    RedKing
    RedKing
    Just have him reconcile with Eddie 4 and become a trusted advisor. Assuming the marriage is arranged in 1475, it’s not unreasonable to say Tudor has an advisory roll.
  • RedKing

    RedKing

  • I think the Beaufort claim was legitimate. Fight (or rather debate) me Yorkists!
  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • I want to know one thing if the main line of Plantagenets survive and so do all the cadet branches, Henry and Jasper still exists but would they be triyng to usurp the throne because i think that they will need a lot of luck to kill all the branches and the female descendents
    RedKing
    RedKing 2
    No, they wouldn’t try to usurp the throne because they have no claim whatsoever. Only Henry Tudor had a claim via Margaret Beaufort.
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    KaiserFriedrichIV
    And by main line i mean
    RedKing
    RedKing
    Yeah they wouldn’t try to usurp the throne in any scenario here.
  • Carolus

    Carolus

  • Hey, I am wondering about your TL "The Tragedy of 1502". You have it under your belt. I assume you'll do something with it sometime in the future. 🤔
    RedKing
    RedKing 1
    Probably not tbh. I did it and then just kind of left it lol. Maybe someday I’ll get around to it. But at the moment those two Chapters are basically it’s completed form!
    Carolus
    Carolus 1
    Alright then. No worries.
    RedKing
    RedKing 1
    Maybe some day, I’ll get back to it :)
  • RedKing

    RedKing

  • Just learnt Catherine of Aragon had a pet monkey. I always thought that portrait of her with one was a joke or some propaganda yoke. Also apparently Henry VII had a Pet Monkey he couldn't control...
  • RedKing

    RedKing

  • Who is the best Tudor?

    Henry VIII "The Proto Chad"
    Henry VII "The underrated"
    Arthur, Prince of Wales "The wasted"
    Mary I "How are there not more fans of her?"
    Elizabeth I "Her Grandfather's Granddaughter, but more popular"
    Mary Tudor The Elder "I got nothing for this"
    Jasper Tudor "The cool Uncle, but no one writes AH about him"
    Edmund Tudor "Er I also got nothing for him"
    Owen Tudur "He married a Princess somehow"
    RedKing
    RedKing
    Forgot about Margaret Tudor, lol. Welp it's only fair:

    Princess Margaret Tudor "I forgot about her"
    RedKing
    RedKing
    I just absolutely adore how I remembered I forgot Meg Tudor before I remembered Edward VI. I guess Horrible Histories described him best when they called him "Sickly little Eddie".

    Edward VI "Boi, died young and I keep forgetting he ever existed"
  • KaiserFriedrichIV

    KaiserFriedrichIV

  • Me made that Godwinson wins at Hastings or convince Edward the Black Prince to not marry Joan of Kent and to not go to that castilian campaign so his branch Will continue and the war of the roses will never happen, the Lancasters,Yorks and Tudors could being mad as much as they want do
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